<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686</id><updated>2011-08-16T04:23:31.560-06:00</updated><category term='Personal'/><category term='Emerg/ing/ent'/><category term='Idolatrous American Religious Nationalism in Internet Resources Furthering the Syncretistic Agendas of Moralistic Pagans in the Guise of Christian Commitment'/><category term='Postmodernism'/><category term='Quotes'/><category term='Audio'/><category term='Fundagelicalism'/><category term='Other Bloggers'/><category term='Ministry'/><category term='Music'/><category term='Preachy'/><category term='rants'/><category term='confessions'/><category term='Theology'/><category term='Books'/><category term='Politics'/><title type='text'>Soylent Green . . .</title><subtitle type='html'>. . . is a blog.  In other words, a it's thinly veiled attempt to render a false sense of importance to my own unremarkable thoughts.  In this case, those thoughts are primarily about Christian theology, culture and mission.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>89</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-2266273102535959885</id><published>2008-02-28T21:30:00.004-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-03T14:09:17.760-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Believing Doubt</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;Scoffers aren’t really open to hearing any answers, because they aren’t really asking serious questions. And as much as they like to be seen as “only being after the hard truth”, they usually are far from what the Proverbs call “searching for wisdom as for hidden treasure” – they read a lot less than people think they do, and they often uncritically parrot the objections of others rather than working through these things themselves. I think they mistake doubt for a kind of knowledge – as though being educated meant learning to deny everything.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It might be what the author of 1 Tim. 6:20 meant when he talked about opposing arguments of what is falsely called knowledge”. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Such is our age. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;But among evangelical Christians, scoffers are a minority group.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The majority group might be what the book of Proverbs dubs “the simple”.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The simple confuse strong faith with the absence of doubt, resulting in a lobotomized, night-of-the-living-dead kind of brainless submission to self-proclaimed authorities.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Promoting a life of faith, in other words, is tantamount to encouraging you to ignore your own experiences, swallow your questions, keep your objections to yourself and continue pretending that life really works the way your theology says it does even when it’s obvious to you that it doesn’t.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is a kind of faith which is very much like the flu – it swells the eyes shut and plugs the ears so that the only clear voice to be heard is our own:&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;and it’s singing, “Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so.” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;While our lives are burning down, the simple cue the violins.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For the simple, faith is an alternative to reality.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;But this sort of faith betrays a superficial acquaintance with the Biblical story. The most cursory glance at Genesis or Kings will yield not a few tantrums, a lot of panicking and a metric ton of confusion – but very rarely do we see the kind of bland spirituality some call strong faith, the kind of faith which meets every challenge with an effortless: “As you wish, Lord. Your will be done!”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Does that sound like Moses to you? Or David (or Jeremiah, or Habakkuk)? If so, it’s time to revisit some of those stories. In fact, Genesis 32 foreshadows the strange distinguishing mark of God’s people; struggle. It is because Jacob wrestled with God that the text says he is renamed “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;Israel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;”.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The point here is that Christians don’t believe in a God who wants submission above all else.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We believe in a God who invites us to engage Him, to bring Him our hearts, not just offer our compliance. He wants us to trust Him, a proposition that entails going to Him with our questions, not ignoring them.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In short, He desires a relationship in which we can say: “I don’t see how this makes any sense at all” before we begin to search for the answers which hide like treasure.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He wants us to be honest about that which is unbelievable, unreasonable, confusing, and even those things that make us angry.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;Jesus was not Ned Flanders, though He’s been read that way through our contemporary evangelical lenses. There’s no doubt that He always did the will of the Father – but as God directed Him to the cross, Jesus emphatically did NOT say: “Okely-dokely”! The Gospel writers depict the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placetype&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;Garden&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt; of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;Gethsemane&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt; as a place of writhing anguish. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Luke displays Jesus, drenched in agony, racked with uncertainty.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He knew what He had to do, but was, at that moment, faced with the indecipherable absurdity of it all. He didn’t refuse the cup He was given to drink, but He didn’t want to drink it, either.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This scene isn’t what leaps to mind when we ask: “what would Jesus do”? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;But careful readers of Scripture have witnessed this before in the lives of men and women throughout &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;Israel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;’s history. There is such a thing as &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;believing doubt&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, a kind of doubt that is actually the mark of &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;mature faith&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, a faith that fights for understanding.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And the ironic thing is that it’s much more like the faith of Jesus than the “&lt;i&gt;Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it&lt;/i&gt;” crowd.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s the kind of faith that hung on the trembling lips of a grieving father in &lt;b&gt;Mark 9:24&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jesus proclaimed, “All things are possible to him who believes!” and&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;he replied, “I do believe; help my unbelief!” &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;There’s a whole section in our Bible that’s dedicated to grappling with the hard questions about what we believe. It’s called “The Wisdom literature” – Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and Song of Solomon.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;questions what other parts of Scripture take for granted.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Genesis 3 says that sin is the cause of all human misery. But in Psalm 73 and most of the book of Ecclesiastes the authors ask, “Why then do evil people seem to prosper and enjoy life so much?” Deuteronomy, the theological center of the Old Testament, says that living for God will generally bring blessing and disobedience will generally bring cursing – but Job isn’t so sure. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In presenting these challenging questions to the theology presented in other books of the Bible wisdom literature isn’t invalidating these other traditions as wrong or contradictory.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They’re inviting us to honestly struggle with a God who can’t be contained by theology or&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;neatly harmonized with experience. The Scriptures are inviting us to take our faith seriously enough to actually care whether the things we read make sense in real life.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;By accepting that invitation, you will enter the world of Augustine, Aquinas, Luther, Wesley, Edwards, and all those who’ve learned that any belief worth having (certainly any relationship worth living and dying for) must survive the titanic struggle of life: the struggle with God Himself. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-2266273102535959885?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/2266273102535959885/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=2266273102535959885&amp;isPopup=true' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/2266273102535959885'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/2266273102535959885'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2008/02/believing-doubt.html' title='Believing Doubt'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-21567923800220244</id><published>2007-10-31T12:20:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2007-10-31T12:20:17.226-06:00</updated><title type='text'>A Priority of Doctrine in Christian Living?</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;    &lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;Certainly, doctrine (defined as the work of godly teachers of the Bible) contributes much to the Christian life. But in some ways, according to Scripture, the Christian life is prior to doctrine in this sense. As Jesus told Nicodemus (“the teacher of Israel,” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;John 3:10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;), you can’t even see the kingdom of God unless you are born again (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;John 3:3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;), that is, unless you have new life from God (cf. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;1 John 2:29&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;3:9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;4:7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;5:1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;18&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;). You cannot be a teacher unless God has given you new life. Through that new life, God gives you a “willingness to do his will” that enables you to know the truth of Jesus’ teaching (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;John 7:17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;). Note that here a change of life is prior to a change in intellectual orientation, a change in doctrine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   Note also how the Apostle Paul tells us to find, test, and approve the will of God in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;Romans 12:1–2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;: by making our bodies living sacrifices, renouncing conformity to the world, being transformed by the renewal of our minds. Again, a change of life is what brings insight, doctrinal understanding. Compare in this respect &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;1 Corinthians 8:1–3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt; (where love and humility are indispensible prerequisites to knowledge); &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;Ephesians 5:8–10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt; (where living as children of light leads us to find what God’s will is); &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;Philippians 1:9–10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt; (where love gives insight); and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;Hebrews 5:11–13&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt; (where ethical maturity prepares us to benefit from doctrinal teaching about Melchizedek).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt; So theology is not self-sufficient. It depends on the maturity of your Christian life, as the maturity of your Christian life depends on theology. Growth in grace will make you a better theologian, and becoming a better theologian will help you grow in grace. There is a “spiral” relationship between the two. When you become a Christian, you usually get some elementary theological teaching, a great help in getting started in your walk with the Lord. But then new questions arise, and you go back to Scripture and theology, and you get more advanced answers—sometimes to the same questions you had as a spiritual babe. But your greater maturity enables you to understand and appreciate teaching of greater depth. And that teaching, in turn, helps you to grow more, and so on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   This is why, in the New Testament, the qualifications of teachers (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;1 Timothy 3:1–7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;Titus 1:5–9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="en-us"&gt;) are more spiritual than intellectual. Paul mentions “aptness to teach” and “sound doctrine,” but his qualifications for elder-teachers are mostly ethical: “above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate,self-controlled,” etc. The application is obvious: If you want to become a theologian, you must be a godly person. That principle applies to the most academic and theoretical of theologians, as well as to the practical theologians (like most of you) who preach sermons, lead Bible studies, nurture other believers, and witness to the lost.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a style="" href="post-create.g?blogID=24953061#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div style=""&gt; &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;&lt;div style="margin: 0in;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="post-create.g?blogID=24953061#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span id="__spanCitationData"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span id="__spanCitationData"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;John Frame&lt;/span&gt; in &lt;i&gt;Reformation and Revival, &lt;/i&gt;11.1.47-11.1.49.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-21567923800220244?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/21567923800220244/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=21567923800220244&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/21567923800220244'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/21567923800220244'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/10/priority-of-doctrine-in-christian.html' title='A Priority of Doctrine in Christian Living?'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-3759233791375390788</id><published>2007-06-13T11:28:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2007-06-13T16:09:21.757-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Gospel Sex</title><content type='html'>1 Corinthians 7:1-5 says:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;7:1 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.webdesign.org/img_articles/2395/The_Cost_Of_Frustration1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 274px; height: 202px;" src="http://www.webdesign.org/img_articles/2395/The_Cost_Of_Frustration1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This is a passage that has often been used by husbands to shift the burden of responsibility for their immorality onto their supposedly under-sexed wives.  Pastors are not immune. Countless counseling situations are seen through the lenses of sexually frustrated men, quick to quote these verses, and leave it at that.      But Paul won’t have it. If your husband does that, simply take him back to &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+6%3A16-17"&gt;1 Co. 6:16-17&lt;/a&gt; where Paul compares being “one flesh” with a woman with being “one spirit” with Jesus.  What that assumes is that the sex he’s talking about in this chapter isn’t the same thing as the immorality he condemned in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+6%3A12-20"&gt;chapter 6&lt;/a&gt; – the self-serving, get-your-needs-met-and-roll-over kind of sex; “food is for the body and the body for food”. This is &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Hebrew sex&lt;/span&gt;; not just the uniting of two bodies but the uniting of two souls, the mingling of two lives. It’s an act of physical oneness that mirrors, pictures, illustrates, embodies, incarnates a spiritual oneness. It’s &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Gospel sex&lt;/span&gt;, a reflection of the oneness we have with Jesus by the Holy Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RnAvqnN0dpI/AAAAAAAAAEk/qpnlEinL7IQ/s1600-h/Eng_Tay_Intimacy3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RnAvqnN0dpI/AAAAAAAAAEk/qpnlEinL7IQ/s320/Eng_Tay_Intimacy3.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5075609189174507154" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;And that intimates the shocking suggestion that the reason your wife isn’t as willing as you are “to be intimate” is because you don’t want intimacy. You want to share your body, but not so much your soul. You want to receive pleasure, but you don’t want to receive your wife – her problems, her pains, her joys, her hopes, her sorrows.  You have all the expectations of a sexual Gnostic, as though your wife’s body could be separated from her soul. You don’t really want to be “one flesh” – you just want to have sex.     &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;And the problem with that is that this is not the sort of marriage that will protect you from sexual immorality&lt;/span&gt;, because if that’s all you want, what’s the difference between sex with your wife and sex with anyone else? You’re trying to fight your selfish lust in the world with your selfish lust at home. How can you break your addiction to selfish sexual pleasure unless you begin to see your sexual acts as about &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;a person&lt;/span&gt; instead of &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;an orgasm&lt;/span&gt;? It won't work. Anyone can give you pleasure. You don’t need your wife for that. You can do that on your own.      If you want to experience the kind of sex that will deliver you from your sinful lusts, you’re going to have to start acting like you’re married someplace other than the bedroom. You’re going to have to stop chasing the cheap imitation of sex-without-relationship (what the Bible calls "immorality) and &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Song+of+Solomon+5%3A1"&gt;start drinking deeply from your wife&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Beware arming yourself with the Bible in order to batter your spouse and feed your own flesh: it’s like a sword without a hilt or a handle – &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;it cuts even the ones who wield it&lt;/span&gt;.  Take it from one whose hands have been bloodied.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-3759233791375390788?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/3759233791375390788/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=3759233791375390788&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/3759233791375390788'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/3759233791375390788'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/06/gospel-sex.html' title='Gospel Sex'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RnAvqnN0dpI/AAAAAAAAAEk/qpnlEinL7IQ/s72-c/Eng_Tay_Intimacy3.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-1422768270299490912</id><published>2007-05-25T13:05:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2007-05-26T07:38:57.894-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Are Debates with Atheists Good for the World?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Rlc4zc5ZrBI/AAAAAAAAADw/Oks_OcGKNMQ/s1600-h/Hitchens.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Rlc4zc5ZrBI/AAAAAAAAADw/Oks_OcGKNMQ/s320/Hitchens.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5068582362210216978" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Christianity Today&lt;/span&gt; recently began a series on the topic, “&lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/mayweb-only/121-52.0.html"&gt;Is Christianity Good for the World&lt;/a&gt;?” – a subject which turns out to relate to my previous post more than tangentially.  Pearcey’s main contention, after all, is that the atheistic materialist really has no warrant for lauding lofty humanistic values given their mechanistic and deterministic view of the universe; and this observation has been the focal sticking point of the entire exchange.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The champions called to do battle are an odd pair of obviously mismatched pedigree, an observation humbly noted by the affirmative position (fellow Idahoan, &lt;a href="http://www.dougwils.com/"&gt;Doug Wilson&lt;/a&gt;).  Maybe that’s what makes the ensuing discussion such an embarrassment for the negative thus far. Beyond the usual frustration in such “conversations”, where mis-characterizations abound, one gets the distinct impression that Christopher Hitchens is so confident that he’s interacting with an idiot that he doesn’t bother to formulate a single argument. Instead, not unlike our favorite-fork-flinging hero, he unleashes a torrent of verbal cutlery aimed to humiliate the religiously inclined.  His attacks are debonair, but rarely of any serious substance – which is where my frustration lies with this larger “down with God” publishing trend we’re seeing lately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://chronicle.augusta.com/images/headlines/111897/SALLY_JESSE_RAPHAEL1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://chronicle.augusta.com/images/headlines/111897/SALLY_JESSE_RAPHAEL1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the point we need philosophers and theologians we are served with self-inflating pundits (or, as in the case of Dennett, philosophers who refuse to engage religion philosophically). Were it not for their impressive vocabularies, it might be more obvious that the “debates” presented in these forums are more like a re-run of Sally Jesse Raphael than they are serious philosophical symposiums. The academic forbearers upon which the edifice of Western society rests (people like Augustine, Aquinas and Pascal) are gaily waved away without protest by people like Hitchens, choosing instead to best Bill O’Reily and Sean Hannity on promotional book tours. The call for a “new enlightenment” conveniently forgets the Christian resources by which we got the first one. He wishes to rise from the ashes of institutions and ideas which, though singed, still stand strong both academically and popularly. Even Nero waited for the city to burn before playing his violin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Rlc5GM5ZrCI/AAAAAAAAAD4/LMqCb1C-1UE/s1600-h/Wilson.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Rlc5GM5ZrCI/AAAAAAAAAD4/LMqCb1C-1UE/s320/Wilson.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5068582684332764194" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/19/books/review/19wieseltier.html?pagewanted=1&amp;ei=5090&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;en=9ecb4016f9ff8682&amp;ex=1298005200&amp;amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss"&gt;Leon Wieseltier’s evaluation&lt;/a&gt; of Dennet’s &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomena&lt;/span&gt; in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The New York Times&lt;/span&gt; could just as aptly describe what I’ve seen of Hitchens in this interchange:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;And Dennett's book is also a document of the intellectual havoc of our infamous polarization, with its widespread and deeply damaging assumption that the most extreme statement of an idea is its most genuine statement. Dennett lives in a world in which you must believe in the grossest biologism or in the grossest theism, in a purely naturalistic understanding of religion or in intelligent design, in the omniscience of a white man with a long beard in 19th-century England or in the omniscience of a white man with a long beard in the sky.           &lt;/blockquote&gt;If you haven't read the exchange, &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/mayweb-only/121-52.0.html"&gt;follow the link&lt;/a&gt; and catch up - I'm curious to hear your reactions.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-1422768270299490912?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/1422768270299490912/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=1422768270299490912&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/1422768270299490912'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/1422768270299490912'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/05/are-debates-with-atheists-good-for.html' title='Are Debates with Atheists Good for the World?'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Rlc4zc5ZrBI/AAAAAAAAADw/Oks_OcGKNMQ/s72-c/Hitchens.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-8633638366043858778</id><published>2007-03-11T19:26:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-04-18T10:31:12.327-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'>Do You Believe in Truth? Totally.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RfStGEhavBI/AAAAAAAAADY/gwsC6CNU6CY/s1600-h/Total+Truth.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RfStGEhavBI/AAAAAAAAADY/gwsC6CNU6CY/s320/Total+Truth.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5040844202739153938" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I recently read Nancy Pearcey's &lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/sites/total.truth/"&gt;Total Truth&lt;/a&gt; and have decided to post a sort of review in a series of reflections on the book.    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Adding to a recent treasury of books aiming to reinvigorate the evangelical mind&lt;a style="" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=8633638366043858778#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:12;"  &gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is Nancy Pearcey’s &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Total Truth: Liberating Christianity from Its Cultural Captivity&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Whereas other treatments of evangelical mental laxity and compromise have focused on particular issues, most recently politics&lt;a style="" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=8633638366043858778#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:12;"  &gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, Pearcey stakes out a task both more admirable and difficult; the critique and construction of an entire worldview.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;A bevy of books have been published in this area to be sure, but what distinguishes &lt;i&gt;Total Truth&lt;/i&gt; is its concern for broad application of a Christian worldview. In just under 400 pages the lay reader is initiated into topics ranging from analytic philosophy (metaphysics, epistemology, philosophy of science), political philosophy, cosmology, cosmogony, biology, early American religious nationalism and the intellectual history of the Western world (replete with sociological implications for the church and the world).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Were it not for the pedagogical dexterity of the author, this could have been a much larger book!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But in the spirit of her mentor, Francis Schaeffer (from whom the title of the book hails), Nancy Pearcey accomplishes something just as difficult as any specialized treatment of these subjects – a conceptual analysis that is actually recognizable in real life. Indeed, the only thing more breathtaking than the breakneck pace with which these topics are covered is just how easily her assessments can be seen in American culture.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;The dominating critique saturating the book is the devastating impact of naturalism (specifically metaphysical materialism/physicalism) on ethics – Aquinas’ moral argument on the offense. The consequences are both philosophical and practical. The philosophical consequence of physicalism is a sharp divide between fact and value that relegates ethics to the ghetto of private opinion&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:12;"  &gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=8633638366043858778#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:12;"  &gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; The ambivalence created by dividing the world into two stories is said to create a schizophrenic polarity in the uneasy minds secularists.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;On the one hand they acknowledge the verifiable and certain results of science as the only public truth (public facts, or “the bottom story” of modernity), but on the other hand they retain deeply held beliefs in the significance and value of humanity which don’t fit into this category (private values, or the “top story” of postmodernity).&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;The cleavage introduced by the strict “scientific” standards for public truth places the top story in the relativistic flux of private opinion and personal perspective. Since public truth says that humans are essentially bags of meat deterministically driven by natural law, beliefs about the “human spirit” turn out to be a universally held necessary fiction requiring voluntary self-deception. As chief Wiggum of the Simpsons has eloquently put it, “[the secularist’s] mouth is writing checks his butt can’t cash”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's much to like about this approach, which we'll take up in the next few posts.  As with any attempt at integration (and that's really the key word for understanding the agenda behind this book) it also involves some reductionistic homogenization.  But at the outset I must say that I really enjoyed &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Total Truth&lt;/span&gt;, if for no other reason than Pearcey's deep understanding of evangelicalism's inner contradictions, instinctive dualism and populist anti-intellectualism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=8633638366043858778#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:10;"  &gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; See Mark Noll, George Marsden, Ronald J. Sider, etc.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn2"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=8633638366043858778#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:10;"  &gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Two recent examples are David Kuo's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Tempting Faith: An Inside Story of Political Seduction &lt;/span&gt;and Gregory Boyd's &lt;i style=""&gt;The Myth of a Christian Nation: How the Quest for Political Power Is Destroying the Church.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;a style="" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=14966686#_ftnref3" name="_ftn3" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:10;"  &gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; See Alasdair McIntyre's comments about emotivism in &lt;i&gt;After Virtue:  A Study in Moral Theory&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-8633638366043858778?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/8633638366043858778/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=8633638366043858778&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/8633638366043858778'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/8633638366043858778'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/03/do-you-believe-in-truth-totally.html' title='Do You Believe in Truth? Totally.'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RfStGEhavBI/AAAAAAAAADY/gwsC6CNU6CY/s72-c/Total+Truth.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-2284667488793193591</id><published>2007-02-24T22:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-02-24T22:37:32.411-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Idolatrous American Religious Nationalism in Internet Resources Furthering the Syncretistic Agendas of Moralistic Pagans in the Guise of Christian Commitment'/><title type='text'>This One Deserves It's Own Label . . .</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/ReEgTZemXbI/AAAAAAAAADM/YCEwN3PaH7A/s1600-h/Idiot.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/ReEgTZemXbI/AAAAAAAAADM/YCEwN3PaH7A/s320/Idiot.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5035341376005758386" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Just caught this over at the &lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/archives/2007/02/24/2049145.html/trackback/"&gt;BHT&lt;/a&gt; and was so impressed that I decided to make up an entirely unique label just for this quote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Conservapedia is an online resource and meeting place where we favor Christianity and America. Conservapedia has easy-to-use indexes to facilitate review of topics. You will much prefer using Conservapedia compared to Wikipedia if you want concise answers free of "political correctness".&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-2284667488793193591?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/2284667488793193591/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=2284667488793193591&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/2284667488793193591'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/2284667488793193591'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/02/this-one-deserves-its-own-label.html' title='This One Deserves It&apos;s Own Label . . .'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/ReEgTZemXbI/AAAAAAAAADM/YCEwN3PaH7A/s72-c/Idiot.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-572154571955797508</id><published>2007-02-14T09:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-02-16T15:45:58.311-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Sola Plerusque?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://wwwstatic.kern.org/images/cmcmath/ED000670.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://wwwstatic.kern.org/images/cmcmath/ED000670.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Some people wear the "5 Sola's" as a badge of honor.  Affiliating oneself with the Reformers, after all, is very much like asking to sit at the right and left hand of Jesus.  It struck me (on the toilet, actually - &lt;a href="http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20041025/luther.html"&gt;how's that for affiliating myself with the Reformation&lt;/a&gt;) how absurd it is to pluralize the word "alone".  Was there such a thing as &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;math &lt;/span&gt;in 16th C. Western Europe? It seems like for the five affirmations to make any sense they would have to be punctuated by the word "or".  Is it Scripture alone? Or is it Christ alone? Or is it grace alone? Or is it faith alone? Or is it only to God that the glory belongs?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, obviously these "alone's" aren't functioning the same way in each of these mottoes - Scripture alone is the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;rule &lt;/span&gt;of the Church's life while Jesus alone is the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;source &lt;/span&gt;of our salvation and grace alone is the &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;ground &lt;/span&gt;of said salvation; faith alone is the only &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;means &lt;/span&gt;by which it can be received and the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;credit &lt;/span&gt;for all of this can only be attributed to God.  What those clarifications demonstrate, though, is just how insufficient the word "alone"really is to describe something as rich and complex as God's plan of salvation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each "sola" is so porous that they could never serve as firm doctrinal boundaries; a fact which is easily seen in the constant haggling in Reformed circles over whether one of the sola's has truly been transgressed or not.  What does it even mean for God to receive all the glory? Don't believers share in that glory by virtue of our union with Christ?  And what about "faith alone" and "grace alone"? The complex relationship between faith and works is almost universally described as involving some kind of necessary dependence (even if that dependence is the construal of works as the necessary outgrowth of faith) - so Lordship salvation somehow can be held without denying this sola while those who entirely stand on it &lt;a href="http://www.sfpulpit.com/2006/09/26/a-quote-from-zane-hodges/"&gt;can be soundly rejected&lt;/a&gt;.  The role of the Scriptures as an authority has been the center of just as much controversy, since it's not clear exactly &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Scripture-Recent-Theology-David-Kelsey/dp/0800613740"&gt;HOW&lt;/a&gt; Scripture should function as an authority (the regulative principle being one example of this question). Obviously countless examples could be given (does Wayne Grudem deny sola Scriptura in his view of prophecy?) - but I'm left wondering exactly what the practical value of these slogans are.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-572154571955797508?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/572154571955797508/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=572154571955797508&amp;isPopup=true' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/572154571955797508'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/572154571955797508'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/02/sola-plerusque.html' title='Sola Plerusque?'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-4184195750179155261</id><published>2007-01-24T20:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-01-25T07:41:58.200-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>Interview with Dr. Peter Enns</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbgtsloHOfI/AAAAAAAAACc/qCaocivFYgQ/s1600-h/enns-peter.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbgtsloHOfI/AAAAAAAAACc/qCaocivFYgQ/s320/enns-peter.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5023815628369639922" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Dr. Peter Enns is the professor of Old Testament and Biblical Hermeneutics at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia.  He's the author of the &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Exodus-Peter-E-Enns/dp/0310206073/sr=1-2/qid=1169700500/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-5102723-0443104?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;NIV Application Commentary on Exodus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and contributed to the D.A. Carson edited &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Justification-Variegated-Nomism-vol-Wissenschaftliche/dp/080102272X"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Justification and Variegated Nomism, Vol. 1: The Complexities of Second Temple Judaism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; with his excellent essay on expansions of Scripture.  I recently had an email exchange with Dr. Enns, whose most recent book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Inspiration-Incarnation-Evangelicals-Problem-Testament/dp/0801027306/sr=1-1/qid=1169700500/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-5102723-0443104?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Incarnation and Inspiration: Evangelicals and the Problem of the Old Testament&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I reviewed in three parts (which are available &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/enns-piration_05.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/enns-piration-pt-2.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/ack.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).  Actually, it might be more accurate to say that I &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;responded &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;to some other reviews&lt;/span&gt; - the book in question has raised no small amount of controversy in the Reformed world.  Having recognized popularly prevailing gnostic notions of Biblical inspiration, Enns seeks to balance the equation with a robust explanation of Scripture's humanity - not with a view to canceling out it's divine nature, but in the hopes of deriving a nuanced analogy with the incarnate Word of God Himself. In our exchange he kindly agreed to be interviewed for the blog, which I promised my readers I'd reproduce here earlier this month.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here it is!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Raja: Can you say a few words about the theological trad&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ition that you currently inhabit and why it’s important to you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dr. Enns:&lt;/span&gt; As a young Christian I was introduced to the Reformed faith quite “accidentally” by stumbling into a PCA church in central &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Pennsylv&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;ania&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; (New Covenant Fellowship in suburban &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Harrisburg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;). My fiancé, now wife, Sue and I began attending a Bible Study led by the pastor on Revelation. He was a WTS grad by the name of John Woll who opened up the book for us in fresh and exciting ways (“You mean the locusts &lt;i style=""&gt;aren’t helicopters&lt;/i&gt;?!”). That was my introduction to the Reformed Faith: a serious and honest engagement with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Scripture, to go where it leads, to see it as an unfolding drama culminating in Christ, and to see how relevant and exciting God’s word is to his people here and now. This remains very important to me as I continue to work toward reflecting Reformed convictions in my own work and everyday journey. Also, what is central to me in faith and life is the Reformed emphasis on God’s sovereignty, his deep love and mercy, and my being given a new life in union with the crucified and risen Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Raja: What are some conscious weaknesses of the tradition which inform your own work?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dr. Enns:&lt;/span&gt; Well, any tradition has weaknesses, since we are all fallen creatures and articulate truth imperfectly. What I greatly admire about the Reformed faith in general is intellectual depth and breadth, which are of great service to the God’s people. But that strength has also been a weakness: when combined with spiritual immaturity it can lead to spiritual pride expressed in an uncharitable or even condescending tone toward other Christians who do not share those convictions or who do not hold them in the same sort of way. I think the Reformed faith needs to be extra careful to reflect Christ’s humility and think of its great tradition as a tool more than a weapon.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbguL1oHOgI/AAAAAAAAACk/be43qWZDyr8/s1600-h/0801027306m.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbguL1oHOgI/AAAAAAAAACk/be43qWZDyr8/s320/0801027306m.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5023816165240551938" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Raja: Is th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;ere a theological tradition outside your own that you particularly appeciate?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dr. Enns:&lt;/span&gt; I appreciate different traditions for different reasons, and I feel that the various traditions all have things to learn from each other while also offering criticism when necessary. I wouldn’t say there is any one or two that make the top of my list; I try to maintain a posture of open-mindedness toward o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;ther Christians while also embracing the tradition to which I&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;have committed myself. C. S. Lewis’s analogy in the preface to &lt;i style=""&gt;Mere Christianity&lt;/i&gt; has always struck me as a healthy, mature, Christian outlook. He speaks of Christianity is a grand hall out of which doors open into several rooms. We are not meant to live in the hall for long but to choose the door that we are convinced best reflects the truth. But, as Lewis continues, “When you have reach&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;ed your own room, be kind to those who have chose&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;n different door and to those who are still in the hall. If they are wrong they need your prayers all the more; and if they are your enemies, then you are under order to pray for them. That is one of the rules common to the whole house.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Raja: Do you think Christian academics are often insensitive to the needs of the Church, and if so, how do you address this in your own writings?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dr. Enns:&lt;/span&gt; I think they certainly can be insensitive, but it may be a bit of a caricature to hold all of us guilty. Still, I had a conversation with &lt;a href="www.jesuscreed.org"&gt;Scot McKnight&lt;/a&gt; about this not too long ago and he reminded me that, in the not too distant past (before the 1970’s), evangelical academics wrote much more to lay audiences. It was seen as their duty to write books that people not of the academic guild could benefit from. For whatever reason, McKnight detects a shift in the 70’s where establishing oneself in the academy became more of a priority. It is very hard work to combine a life of rigorous academic work and service to the church at large (add to that how highly specialized the various discip&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;lines have become), but we must try to make that happen (McKnight actually pulls this off very well). But to do so means, for most of us, maki&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;ng decisions about what to publish and where. I would also add that part of the insensitivity can stem from academics failing to remember that they are servants above all. Sometimes we think more of what it is we know and the urgency of bringing all of that at once to people who are not prepared to hear it. If we think first, however, of what will be of benefit to others, it may affect the questions we ask and how we go about answering them. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Raja: To what degree does the evangelical debate over modernism and postmodernism in theology enter your discussion of inspiration in &lt;i style=""&gt;Inspiration and Incarnation&lt;/i&gt;? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dr. Enns:&lt;/span&gt; I’m not sure how well that distinction captures it, at least not in a strict academic/philosophical sense of the words, but it may be appropriate from a, let’s say, temperamental point of view. For example, &lt;i style=""&gt;I&amp;I&lt;/i&gt; is clearly a missional book, and so lines can be drawn to the emerging movement. I would hope, however, that a missional mindset not be exclusively associat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;ed with any one movement. (While I was in seminary, I was encouraged to think along missional lines by my professor Harvie Conn, who was quite intentional about a missional hermeneutic throughout his nearly thirty years at Westminster Theological Seminary) Also, my thoughts on inspiration are deeply influenced by what I refer to in my book as an incarnational approach, which was always lurking in the background in my seminary education, and a desire (begun in seminary and augmented in graduate school) to account for how the Bible looks as a function of its historical contexts. It is a bit interesting to me that these two influences are anything but postmodern: Reformed orthodoxy and training in modern biblical studies. Simply studying the Bible is itself an introduction to a missional hermeneutic (Chris Wright’s recent IVP release &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mission-God-Unlocking-Bibles-Narrative/dp/0830825711"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;The Mission of God: Unlocking the Bible’s Grand Narrative&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is a wonderful and timely summation of this notion.)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbgvIVoHOhI/AAAAAAAAACs/j0D9PuXuOWE/s1600-h/warfield.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbgvIVoHOhI/AAAAAAAAACs/j0D9PuXuOWE/s320/warfield.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5023817204622637586" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Raja: Where do you feel that critics have misunderstood you most? What would you say have been the best or most helpful criticisms?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dr. Enns:&lt;/span&gt; I think where the criticism have been most helpful is in pointing out some ambiguities and imprecise (and therefore misleading) aspects of the book. For example, even th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;ough I feel I qualify the matter at junctures, I can also see how I can leave the impression that evangelicalism as a whole has been misguided and in need of sweeping correction. I actually say the opposite at the outset and the bibliographies include evangelical authors, but there are a few phrases in the book that fail to make that distinction and have led to understandable confusion. Similarly, the book is not calling for a complete overhaul of Christian doctrine, only a more deliberately positive accounting of its complex human dimension, and how that accounting can influence Christian doctrine. Where I think the book has been most misunderstood is in its missional dimension. I think some critics expect a book that deals with inspiration to have a certain look and use certain vocabulary, and so respond to a book that I actually had no intention to write. Another area where the criticism has been helpful i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;s in helping me articulate more clearly in my own mind where the divide might be among evangelicals, and I think it may have to do with the role historical study plays in how we think about Scripture, or perhaps to what extent historical context will contribute to doctrinal formulations that were made before the serious influx of historical information over the past 150 years or so. That is an exceedingly complex matter to untangle, in my opinion, but it is a task waiting to be done.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Raja: Do you read Christian blogs, and do you see theological blogging as a worthwhile enterprise?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dr. Enns:&lt;/span&gt; If done “right.” Blogs can be helpful if the rhetoric and posturing are toned down. I do not think, however, that the internet is a helpful venue for any sort of really serious theological debate but more of a place for musing and dialog. Debate requires a patience and distance that are not encouraged by the “tyranny of the urgent” inherent on the internet. When we have instant access to others—without the subtleties that accompany a face-to-face meeting—we are more prone to say things that upon further reflection we &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;would likely not say (and email may even be worse). The internet is instant yet impersonal, even anonymous at times. That encourages posturing more than a true meeting of the minds.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbgveFoHOiI/AAAAAAAAAC0/V05a_Ntu4KU/s1600-h/22e_carell_narrowweb__200x246.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbgveFoHOiI/AAAAAAAAAC0/V05a_Ntu4KU/s320/22e_carell_narrowweb__200x246.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5023817578284792354" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Raja: Is there anything else you’d like to say?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dr. Enns:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I’m glad the Yankees got Pettitte back, although I hope his back problems are a thing of the past…. Although I will always owe a deep and inexpressible debt of gratitude to “The Simpsons,” it has been losing its edge for some time now, and so “The Office” has become my favorite TV comedy…. I am really hoping I can stick with my workout schedule for more than two months into the new year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-4184195750179155261?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/4184195750179155261/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=4184195750179155261&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/4184195750179155261'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/4184195750179155261'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/01/interview-with-dr-peter-enns.html' title='Interview with Dr. Peter Enns'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbgtsloHOfI/AAAAAAAAACc/qCaocivFYgQ/s72-c/enns-peter.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-2068477465785931718</id><published>2007-01-19T11:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-01-22T15:05:16.510-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><title type='text'>Sacred Sexuality</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbEXyFoHOXI/AAAAAAAAAA8/ukVUlB-RwFA/s1600-h/Picture+3.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbEXyFoHOXI/AAAAAAAAAA8/ukVUlB-RwFA/s320/Picture+3.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5021821208766134642" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I'm still thinking about sex, but it's not just because I'm a man, and I'm pretty much always thinking about sex. It's because a few posts ago I sketched out some problems with inclusivist views of sexuality over against the ancient, traditional and Biblical depiction of sexual union as fundamentally heterosexual.  My main point there was the fact that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;sexual union is theologically constructed on the foundation of God's covenantal union with His people.&lt;/span&gt;  This, I said, prevents Christians from affirming homosexual union, because the mysterious projection of this covenantal relationship requires the difference of manhood and womanhood to retain the picture of monotheistic worship - i.e. the exclusive worship of the "Other".  This, not a stock condemnation of Gentile behavior, is what undergirds Paul's condemnation of homosexuality in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1%3A18-27"&gt;Romans 1:18-27&lt;/a&gt;.  From the very beginning (in which the man and woman were created after God's own image) their complementarity afforded them the ability to image forth God's nature together in the advancement of His kingdom.  Procreation was the means by which this was to be done, in the hopes of producing the "seed" by which the serpent's head would be crushed -&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt; but the essence of their sexuality was in their image-bearing capacity, not in their procreative agenda&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's this image-bearing/representation that not only Paul is building from in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ephesians+5%3A28-33"&gt;Ephesians 5:28-33&lt;/a&gt;, but Moses builds upon in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Deuteronomy+27%3A20-23"&gt;Deuteronomy 27:20-23&lt;/a&gt;.  He prefaces this list of "cursing" for sexual vices with a clear statement of Israel's election and vocation in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Deuteronomy+27%3A9-10"&gt;verses 9-10&lt;/a&gt; (see also &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Deuteronomy+28%3A12"&gt;28:12&lt;/a&gt;).  Statements like these remind the reader that all of the commands to Israel recapitulate the command made to Adam, to bear God's image in the extension of God's kingdom over all the earth.  In other words, sexuality is much more deeply rooted in Biblical theology than its occasional appearance in a vice/virtue list.  It's bound together with the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;imago Dei&lt;/span&gt; and the unique manner in which heterosexual union pictures God and His relationship with His people.  This bears itself out, of course, in Hosea, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbEZwloHOdI/AAAAAAAAABs/aIuEBCC2GU0/s1600-h/picture+5.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 194px; height: 231px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbEZwloHOdI/AAAAAAAAABs/aIuEBCC2GU0/s320/picture+5.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5021823382019586514" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Human sexual conduct is a function of Divine representation in covenantal union, which means that the theological significance of sexual union &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/01/few-antitheses-on-same-sex.html"&gt;doesn't just prohibit homosexual behavior&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;1) It prohibits bestiality:&lt;/span&gt; When God prohibits sex with animals in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Lev+18%3A23"&gt;Lev. 18:23&lt;/a&gt;, he calls it "perversion".  This word signifies a confusion of the created order.  That perversion can be linked to the created order which distinguishes the creation of man and woman from the creation, which they are to rule over together.  The distinction of the man and woman from the animals is prominently highlighted in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Gen+1%3A26-28"&gt;Gen. 1:26&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Gen+1%3A26-28"&gt;-28&lt;/a&gt; as based upon creation in his own likeness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;2) It prohibits incest:&lt;/span&gt; The Hebrew word "perversion" is also used of incest in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Lev+20+12"&gt;Lev. 20:12&lt;/a&gt; (with some versions even using that word to translate it), a crime which incurs the death penalty.  Again, the reversal of the creation norm is the heart of the prohibition, and the resulting death re-narrates the consequences of the Fall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;3) It prohibits rape:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://http//www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Deut+22%3A25-27"&gt;Deut. 22:25-27&lt;/a&gt; also echoes the Genesis account in comparing rape to (lit.) "a man who rises against his neighbor and murders him", carrying resonances of the Cain and Abel narrative with the same linkages between sin and death; but perhaps more importantly it likens the rationale for the death penalty to that of murder. Rape is a capital crime because it mars the image of God (see &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Gen+9%3A6"&gt;Gen. 6:9&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbEZeVoHOcI/AAAAAAAAABk/epbyTEd5Gfw/s1600-h/picure+6.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 177px; height: 242px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbEZeVoHOcI/AAAAAAAAABk/epbyTEd5Gfw/s320/picure+6.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5021823068486973890" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;4) It prohibits polygamy:&lt;/span&gt; The theological significance of sexual union depends upon the exclusive relationship of one man and one woman.  While this is less clear within the pages of the OT, whose patriarchs maintain multiple wives without express authorial censure (though the disastrous results of polygamy remain un-sanitized in these accounts - cf. &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Deut.+17%3A14-17"&gt;Deut. 17:14-17&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Deut.+21%3A15-17"&gt;21:15-17&lt;/a&gt;), the words of Jesus in the NT clearly place the Genesis narrative at the foundation of theological considerations about sex (see &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Mat+19%3A4-8"&gt;Mat. 19:4-8&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;5) It prohibits adultery and prostitution:&lt;/span&gt; The imagery of adultery and prostitution provides the most powerful imagery in God's rebuke of Israel for her waywardness to the covenant relationship which wed them together with YHWH in the exodus event. &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ezekiel+16"&gt;Ezekiel 16&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Hosea+1-4"&gt;Hosea 1-4&lt;/a&gt; are the bizarro &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Eph+5%3A25-32"&gt;Ephesians 5&lt;/a&gt;.  The stability of sexual union depends upon the imagery of devoted monotheistic worship, and the opposite is also true; the chaos of adultery and prostitution is patterned after idolatry.  Notice that the coherence of God's complaint prioritizes passionate love and expectations of covenant loyalty in the institution of marriage - not just procreation. The "knowledge of God" and Adam "knowing his wife" are unavoidable parallels.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbEX6FoHOYI/AAAAAAAAABE/p-Vdv85gGKo/s1600-h/picture+4.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 259px; height: 259px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbEX6FoHOYI/AAAAAAAAABE/p-Vdv85gGKo/s320/picture+4.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5021821346205088130" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;6) It prohibits pre-marital sex:&lt;/span&gt; The primacy of "covenant" in describing God's relationship with His people stands behind the "mystery" defined in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Eph+5%3A25-32"&gt;Ephesians 5&lt;/a&gt;.  The betrothal of the Bride to Christ is sealed by baptism, with public vows.  Witnesses attest to the covenant, a role assigned to the creation in God's union with Israel.  In the same way, the marriage vow re-enacts the cosmic drama of God's saving purposes and sanctifies the relationship as more than just the harlequin romances of passing desire.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The act of sex is a consummation of this thick description, &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;not in the conscious thought of imaging God's love for His people and not in a procreative agenda, but in the uninhibited expression of the lovers' passion for one another&lt;/span&gt;.  The tangled bodies of men and women in the act of sex is a monument to God's love, much like communion proclaims the Lord's death - not in words but in the eating of it.  But in order for this mysterious representation to redound to the glory of God, it must not only be heterosexual - it must be exclusive, within the bounds of covenantal commitment, with the utmost respect of the image-bearing partner and as the consummation of a relationship characterized by self-giving love.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-2068477465785931718?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/2068477465785931718/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=2068477465785931718&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/2068477465785931718'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/2068477465785931718'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/01/sacred-sexuality.html' title='Sacred Sexuality'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbEXyFoHOXI/AAAAAAAAAA8/ukVUlB-RwFA/s72-c/Picture+3.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-7138821532391119116</id><published>2007-01-18T10:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-01-22T22:31:22.732-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>A Hegelian Forray into Calvinism</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;Caution: Intramural Aside Ahead! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Those who could care less about debates in the Reformed blogosphere, skip this and read the posts below.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.doeat.org/caution/IMAGES/caution.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://www.doeat.org/caution/IMAGES/caution.JPG" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, so the title of this post doesn't make any sense, but since the subject of this post is mostly dead around the blogosphere, I had to think of something - not to mention that it sounded smart, and that's enough to prop up my ego (which,  let's be honest, is precisely what blogging is all about anyway).  But the reason I thought this title might fit was because of what I've seen going on at one of those blogs I read semi-regularly - namely the web-home of &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/"&gt;Phil Johnson and friends&lt;/a&gt;, proudly blogrolled to your right. The atmosphere there lies somewhere between genuinely encouraging and noxiously abrasive - but there's enough of the former to keep me coming back to read the Godward musings of men loosely connected with my alma mater.  Beyond the odd (as in occasional) devotional (in a good way) post, every once and awhile something very interesting takes place.  Without making any value judgments about it (yet), you'll notice that from time to time some not-so-distant theological cousins show up and wreak the same kind of havoc on the PyroManiacs that others have accused of the PyroManiacs of unleashing on them.  A strange role-reversal takes place whereby SOMEONE ELSE plays the role of the PyroManiac TO the PyroManiacs.  It's enough to blow your mind, like when you find out that all of the characters John Cusack is interacting with in the movie &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Identity&lt;/span&gt; are actually some demented fat guy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Man, I'm really not hitting with these analogies today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.firstfree.org/studentministries/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/DSC00153%20small.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 256px; height: 228px;" src="http://www.firstfree.org/studentministries/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/DSC00153%20small.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In the past it's been those more fundamentalist than Phil and crew, but as of late it's been those who are more professedly Calvinist than the bunch.  The kerfuffle erupted over &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/01/before-i-am-banished-for-posting-at.html"&gt;a Francis Chan gospel presentation&lt;/a&gt; mentioned at &lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/"&gt;the BHT&lt;/a&gt; which, apparently, wasn't hardcore enough for some of TeamPyro's Calvinist readership. The exacting, theologically Pavlovian terminology was conspicuously absent from his presentation, causing some Reformed watchdogs to foam rather than salivate, and the result was a basic defense of the video's integrity on the part of the TeamPyro crew.  In a really great series of posts &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/01/just-stop-and-think.html"&gt;Phil&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/01/not-to-bump-dan-or-anything.html"&gt;Frank&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/01/chans-biggest-mistake.html"&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt; all showed their dismay at the hair-splitting over-shrewdness of the critics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pyros insisted that there is essential agreement, objected to vacuous labelling of their nuanced position, protested exaggerations about their view, balked at the bumper-sticker rhetoric being used against them, accused the opposition of not actually reading their posts and called for a greater appreciation for Christian conduct over an obsession with doctrinal precision.  The Calvinist vanguard stood their ground, which (of course) was the self-professedly more consistent, more Biblical  and more God-exalting position, to the exasperation of their "conversation" partners.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;And the broadly-Reformed universe collapsed on itself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra-6p1oHOWI/AAAAAAAAAAw/M-8TekMS_PM/s1600-h/spurgeon%281%29.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra-6p1oHOWI/AAAAAAAAAAw/M-8TekMS_PM/s200/spurgeon%281%29.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5021437337474120034" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This is where my opaque title comes into play - an over-simplified summarization of Hegel's philosophy of history involves a thesis sowing the seeds of its own destruction.  Some previous TeamPyro posts (which Phil helpfully linked in &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/01/just-stop-and-think.html"&gt;his excellent article&lt;/a&gt;) warn against what he considers excessive listening and dialog.   &lt;a href="http://phillipjohnson.blogspot.com/2005/11/cant-we-all-just-get-along.html"&gt;He's not a big fan of conversation&lt;/a&gt;. These posts also warn against being too narrowly divisive, of course - but they fail to create criteria by which someone is being "narrowly divisive" as opposed to "fighting for the Gospel" - instead they supply a kind of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ad hoc&lt;/span&gt; criteria which defines divisiveness as "anyone to my immediate right" and heresy as "everyone to my immediate left".  What becomes clear in all of this is that the Pyro's critics could have easily written the previously linked post about "conversation" with reference to &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;the defenders of Chan&lt;/span&gt;. It's this kind of methodological problem that not only allows Phil to characterize me as one of the "doctrinally freewheeling TMS graduates" who "seem enthralled with certain currently-stylish flavors of epistemological skepticism", but also leaves himself wide open to the spirit of his critics' accusations (i.e. that he denies the absolute sovereignty of God, and possibly the Gospel itself).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-7138821532391119116?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/7138821532391119116/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=7138821532391119116&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/7138821532391119116'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/7138821532391119116'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/01/hegelian-forray-into-calvinism.html' title='A Hegelian Forray into Calvinism'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra-6p1oHOWI/AAAAAAAAAAw/M-8TekMS_PM/s72-c/spurgeon%281%29.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-521676028708569767</id><published>2007-01-18T07:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-01-22T20:47:36.693-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Music'/><title type='text'>Death to the Pixies</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000002HR4.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 223px; height: 223px;" src="http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000002HR4.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I still remember the first time I caught a glimpse of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Black"&gt;Frank Black&lt;/a&gt; on a poster at the local record store.  I had just started getting into &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixies"&gt;The Pixies&lt;/a&gt; and the raw wailing of the 90's alternative punk god, my mental projection of him being the typical screaming Seattle waif of a front-man.  What I saw was a portly balding lumberjack.  The delightful wrongness of that image sort of represents the quirky greatness of The Pixies, and my appreciation for them has only grown as of late.  After my conversion to Christ I predictably threw away all of my CD's, including a lot of Pixies I now wish I still owned (it usually takes you a few years in Christ to "get" the idea of common grace).  A few years ago I picked up the compilation, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Death to the Pixies&lt;/span&gt;, in the hopes of replacing what I'd lost in the most economical way possible.  The result was both glorious and satisfying.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The compilation consists of two CD's, one recorded and the other live.  The recorded CD seemed to be a haphazard selection, with representative tracks from their albums just flung together without any discernible arrangement.  But from the opening track I was instantly reminded just how BIG their sound was.   The guitars tear at your face and Black's shredding vocals are just as beautiful as I remember.  I probably would have chosen a different opening track (Cecelia Ann from &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Bossonova&lt;/span&gt;), but "&lt;a href="http://play.rhapsody.com/pixies/trompelemonde/planetofsound?didAutoplayBounce=true"&gt;Planet of Sound&lt;/a&gt;" is probably one of my favorite rock songs of all time.  One thing I hadn't noticed from my high-school days was the amount of Biblical allusion in their lyrics, with darker themes of Old Testament narrative (like incest and rape) being parodied in various songs ("Nimrod's Son" comes to mind).  But the lyrics aren't &lt;span&gt;Marilyn Manson&lt;/span&gt;-ish tripe - it's an intelligent wrestling with absurdity that provokes more than it defiles.  Much like their lyrics, their explosive vocals and careening guitars never dissipate into chaos or lose their melodic energy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.broszkowski.com/tv/pixies/pixies_move_thumb.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 386px; height: 218px;" src="http://www.broszkowski.com/tv/pixies/pixies_move_thumb.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The live recording shows just how well-deserved their reputation for stellar stage presence really was, with many songs mirroring the tracks on the recorded portion of the compilation.  The comparison helps to highlight the points of departure and improvisation ("Wave of Mutilation" is slower, for example).  Even though a few songs sound somewhat "phoned in", with "Monkey Gone to Heaven" as an obvious example, there are a number of renditions that make you want to run around flapping your arms like a chicken - "Broken Face" and "Isla De Encanta" chug with all the power of a speeding train.  Their incredible sensibilities for pop rock are on full display in "U-Mass", "Dig For Fire" and "Allison".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbWFNloHOeI/AAAAAAAAACQ/bGZ4DJDA8OI/s1600-h/Kim_Deal.thumb.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 149px; height: 149px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbWFNloHOeI/AAAAAAAAACQ/bGZ4DJDA8OI/s320/Kim_Deal.thumb.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5023067427886807522" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;With so much obvious talent compressed together, it's no wonder that the sheer mass of such singularity would result in the Big Bang that threw the band in all different directions.  I've gone and purchased a Breeder's album (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Last Splash&lt;/span&gt;), which I've thoroughly enjoyed - but the contrast in Kim Deal's sweet, airy melodies and Frank Black's powerful barking is an indelible loss.  Even the tracks in which she provides the only vocals, such as the live version of "Into the White"  on the second CD (and "Bone Machine" on the first CD), where her voice washes over you in dreamy waves, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;it's the juxtaposition&lt;/span&gt; with Black's grounding, gravelly contribution elsewhere on the album that makes it like apples of gold in settings of silver.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are some tracks I wish would have been included, of course - "Alec Eiffel", "Hey", "Is She Weird?" and "Letter to Memphis" stand out in their absence (for me, anyway).  But in the end, this is the reason "Best of" albums are such a good idea - it makes me want to slowly begin buying back the albums I've since destroyed or given away.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-521676028708569767?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/521676028708569767/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=521676028708569767&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/521676028708569767'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/521676028708569767'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/01/death-to-pixies.html' title='Death to the Pixies'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/RbWFNloHOeI/AAAAAAAAACQ/bGZ4DJDA8OI/s72-c/Kim_Deal.thumb.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-7890826680104135429</id><published>2007-01-17T09:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-01-17T13:56:33.942-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><title type='text'>A Few Antitheses on Same Sex Relationships</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra5u2VoHOTI/AAAAAAAAAAM/yR7auhDZtqs/s1600-h/Picture+0.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra5u2VoHOTI/AAAAAAAAAAM/yR7auhDZtqs/s320/Picture+0.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5021072514362063154" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Having enjoyed Kim Fabricius' continuing &lt;a href="http://faith-theology.blogspot.com/2006/09/propositions-by-kim-fabricius.html"&gt;propositions series&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Faith and Theology&lt;/span&gt;, I was excited to see him &lt;a href="http://faith-theology.blogspot.com/2007/01/twelve-propositions-on-same-sex.html"&gt;recently address the issue of homosexuality in the Church&lt;/a&gt;.  Same-sex relationships, of course, remain one of the most divisive issues in Christendom (as demonstrated by the gaining fissures within Anglican Communion), producing far more heat than light on all sides of the debate. Given such an atmosphere of off-putting rhetoric, any salient theological insight should be received with gratitude, and I'm thankful for Kim's efforts to crystallize the deeper issues which concern both the ancient voices and those of contemporary dissent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Antithesis #1&lt;/span&gt;  Kim addresses the nature/nurture issue in proposition 2, and provides what I think is the bedrock for an inclusivist case - namely, that homosexuality is about identity, not a set of practices or learned behavior.  It's at this point where the discussion can get unnecessarily bogged down in scientific analysis about genetic predisposition - but one has to ask whether the "natural" can provide much help for Christians who are discussing the normativity of certain behaviors.  Demonstrating that a behavior is "natural" requires further distinction (both in contemporary discussion and the use of Biblical arguments from "nature"), since Christian ontology is a complex of two elements - namely, the divinely stamped image of God and the fall of man into sin.  All sorts of activities can also be shown with confidence to be genetically predisposed, yet Christians passionately affirm them as &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;defective &lt;/span&gt;of the image God, not &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;representative &lt;/span&gt;of it. Describing homosexuality as a congenital disposition, then, merely restates the debate, not advances it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Antithesis #2&lt;/span&gt; The use of the Bible in resolving these sorts of questions has been an axiomatic problem for theologians, for which homosexuality is a banner example.  But Kim doesn't resort to the common tactics of simply dismissing the Bible on the grounds of interpretive impossibility - he actually acknowledges (in proposition 3) that the Bible clearly prohibits homosexuality.  His real objection in appealing to Biblical authority is that it's not exactly clear whether the phenomena the Bible condemns is actually the same phenomena as is currently conceived.  But this tabling of the Scriptures on the topic may be premature, on two fronts.  The first is what seems to me to be an undervaluing of the sophistication of Greek sexuality.  Kim's point about the difference between ancient and modern conceptions of same-sex love seems to assume the  reduction of homosexual behavior to cult prostitution or episodic erotic encounters.    But a few &lt;a href="http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/word/wright.htm"&gt;biblical scholars&lt;/a&gt; (and not a few classicists) acknowledge the warm, loving, and committed variety of ancient same-sex relationships.  Kim is right to assume that the issue of identity bound up with homosexuality is much more pointed today than in ancient times, where activity and identity were conflated - but its important to note that these notions weren't pit against one another.    Identifying oneself as "homosexual" would have certainly been foreign to Greek ears - but the "natural" attachment to the same sex celebrated by the ancients doesn't seem too far from our understanding of homosexuality (and much closer to Paul's than some are willing to admit).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra5u81oHOUI/AAAAAAAAAAU/DfnVWbcy1z4/s1600-h/Picture+1.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra5u81oHOUI/AAAAAAAAAAU/DfnVWbcy1z4/s320/Picture+1.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5021072626031212866" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Secondly, though, the Bible's teaching on sexuality goes far beyond apophatic pronouncements and prohibitions.  The positive teaching of Scripture gives a theologically nuanced affirmation of heterosexuality, out of which these prohibitions grow.  Jesus' teaching about man as male and female, mysteriously fused together in marriage is God's institution of a normative social convention.  The imagery projected by this union is explained by Paul as the mystery of Christ's love for the Church.  Far from being one metaphor one could choose among many, this is a "mystery" - the same word used in Ephesians to describe the amazing union of Jew with Gentile in the dissolution of national ethnic barriers in the Church.   The Biblical language of idolatry as a diversion from this monogamous heterosexual union isn't incidental.  Both adultery (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ezk.+16"&gt;Ezk. 16&lt;/a&gt;) and homosexuality (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1"&gt;Ro. 1&lt;/a&gt;) illustrate idolatry and corrupt this intended projection.  Exactly how all of this works,  as Paul says in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Eph+5%3A32"&gt;Eph. 5:32&lt;/a&gt;, is a mystery.  But what remains clear is that he is "speaking with reference to Christ and the Church".  If these connections to the imago Dei were &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ad hoc&lt;/span&gt; constructions of the later church, I might agree with Kim about the exegetical difficulty of &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Gen%3A1%3A26-28"&gt;Gen. 1:26-28&lt;/a&gt; as a proof-text - but as it is, the Biblical writers themselves have seen the sexual prohibitions as having grown out of God's ideal design. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1"&gt;Romans 1&lt;/a&gt; to see the listing of homosexuality as just another Jewish polemic against Gentiles, or as just another sin which emerges from idolatry.  Same sex relationships are given a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;par excellence&lt;/span&gt; place in his argument against idolatry because it pictures the replacement of the Other - God - for that which is the same - created things (a very Barthian critique).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Antithesis #3&lt;/span&gt; Kim appeals to a trajectory principle to marshal Biblical warrant for the inclusion of practicing homosexuals in the Church - an approach with as conservative prestige as to attI. Howard Marshall and William Webb. But this is a controversial concept, to be sure.  Kevin Vanhoozer has aptly warned, "One problem with this approach is that the interpreter has to assume that he or she is standing at the end of the trajectory, or at least further along (or better at plotting line slope intercept formulas!) than some of the biblical authors in order to see where it leads."  Again, this is a very Barthian concern, in that it puts the interpreter in His place, in the driver's seat of the redemptive-historical train.  At best elusive, and at worst prejudicial, the trajectory approach toward inclusion is capable of casting nets wider than anyone might wish, depending on the judgment of the one who happens to be "plotting the slope".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra5vF1oHOVI/AAAAAAAAAAc/Za6XFX819yA/s1600-h/Picture+2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra5vF1oHOVI/AAAAAAAAAAc/Za6XFX819yA/s320/Picture+2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5021072780650035538" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Antithesis #4&lt;/span&gt; I hesitate to add to Kim's eloquent call to live in the truth and witness to Christ in proposition 12.  It is a beautifully stated fact of Christ existence, namely our reliance on the Spirit for words and actions tempered with &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Gal+5%3A22-25"&gt;love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control&lt;/a&gt;.  Yet, in the context of the Churchly warring over this issue, it should probably be said that no one has the corner on this particular market. Not so much an antithesis as a clarification, it should be said that for those who see homosexuality as fundamentally unbiblical, there is a vast difference between our view of the &lt;strong&gt;morality of &lt;span class="hilite"&gt;homosexual&lt;/span&gt;ity&lt;/strong&gt; and our view of the Church's &lt;strong&gt;moral obligations to &lt;span class="hilite"&gt;homosexual&lt;/span&gt;s. &lt;/strong&gt;That is to say that the warmth of contact and fellowship of Spirit-filled Christians with lesbian and gay people can be a reality for those who, despite their views on homosexuality as sinful, take very seriously their ethical responsibilities toward these commonly mistreated individuals.  If there is any hint of antithesis here, it's at the notion that inclusion be defined in terms of a coupling of divine grace and ecclesial ontology &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;with the moral acceptance of homosexuality&lt;/span&gt; - which is an all too infrequently mentioned bully tactic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remarkably, though, Kim Fabricius has managed to contribute to the Church's wrestling with these explosive issues without resorting to anything like the tactics he decries, delivering with the same characteristic grace and insight as we have come to expect from him.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-7890826680104135429?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/7890826680104135429/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=7890826680104135429&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/7890826680104135429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/7890826680104135429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/01/few-antitheses-on-same-sex.html' title='A Few Antitheses on Same Sex Relationships'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B9yu-ybQB8Q/Ra5u2VoHOTI/AAAAAAAAAAM/yR7auhDZtqs/s72-c/Picture+0.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-6263534176223593233</id><published>2007-01-07T23:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-01-08T01:52:39.429-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'>War of the Words</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.vermontcatholic.org/CatholicFormation/Casey%20-%20Jesus%20Freak%20T%20Shirt.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 232px; height: 174px;" src="http://www.vermontcatholic.org/CatholicFormation/Casey%20-%20Jesus%20Freak%20T%20Shirt.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;One of the hallmarks of evangelical Christianspeak is a term upon which our patron saint, Billy Graham, has built his career - it's the word "saved".  You might recognize its usage in popular phrases such as, "Are ya &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;SAVED &lt;/span&gt;tonight?", "When did &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;you&lt;/span&gt; get saved?"&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;and (my favorite) "That guy needs to get &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;saved&lt;/span&gt;".  It is, in fact, such a ubiquitous stand-in for describing evangelical Christians that a satirical movie by Brian Dannelly could &lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0332375/"&gt;lampoon us&lt;/a&gt; (rather successfully) under that simple monosyllabic banner.  To be a Christian is to have been "saved". The more doctrinally fastidious would be quick to point out all of the corresponding components to that past event, to be sure - namely, present sanctification and future glorification; but generally salvation should be regarded as a past-tense fact.  Sanctification is a term that belongs to the outworking of that past fact, and glorification is a term that belongs to the consummation of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It might strike you as strange, then, that in comparison with today's evangelical terminology that the word "saved" is in considerably modest circulation within the pages of the New Testament.  Not only is this the case, but to the chagrin of the more dogmatically inclined, the salvation terminology of the Bible doesn't comport with the rigidly chronological categorization everyone is so familiar with (justification, sanctification, glorification).  In fact, the Biblical word "salvation" speaks primarily not of a past event, but a (certain and secure) future hope (cf. Mt. 10:22, Ro. 13:11, 2 Tim. 2:10, Heb. 9:28, 1 Pet. 1:9).   The lesson here is that theologians, even very good theologians, use Biblical words differently than the Bible uses that same terminology.  This isn't because they're doing something evil or underhanded, but because they are trying to draw together all of the diverse strands of Scripture into one discernible whole - and that can be very helpful. But if people don't understand that the Biblical writers themselves didn't mean exactly the same thing these theologians mean by these words, it can result in confusion - and  even more often that that, contention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0802838200.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 185px; height: 287px;" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0802838200.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Before listing some passages to prove that point, though, it's important to notice that the Biblical passages which contain those words most familiar to systematic theology - words like justification, sanctification, adoption, regeneration, etc. - are not the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;only &lt;/span&gt;passages in the Bible which speak to those theological topics.  J&lt;span style=""&gt;ustification, for instance, deals with concepts of judgment, wrath, righteousness, law and covenant.  Studying about justification, then, means more than just looking up every time the word shows up in the Bible.  It means rooting out the concepts attached to that word.  But more to the point, once you do find all the occurrences of these words, you need to know that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;they aren't even used the same way in every passage&lt;/span&gt;. The word "sanctification", for example, doesn't mean the same thing in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+6%3A11"&gt;1 Co. 6:11&lt;/a&gt; as it does in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+7%3A14"&gt;1 Co. 7:14&lt;/a&gt;.  That's an incredibly important point. It means that not only do theological words (like justification, sanctification and glorification) not mean the same thing in the Bible as they do in systematic theology - but they don't always mean the same thing even in the Bible itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;With those caveats out of the way, and getting back to the issue at hand, once you begin looking  up words like "salvation", "justification" and even "glorification", the time line mentioned above unravels.  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;In fact, every term used by systematic theologians to describe our salvation - all of them - have an “already—not yet” pattern.&lt;/span&gt;  Whatever saving activity is being described, it is generally (and variously) presented as beginning at a point in time, carried through the present and brought to final fulfillment or realization at the end.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  Numerous passages could be listed, but I'll list just a few - notice in the passages selected how the word differs both from usage in other passages listed and from common theological currency among Christians.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Salvation &lt;/span&gt;is past (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Eph+2%3A8"&gt;Eph. 2:8&lt;/a&gt;), present (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Co+1%3A+18"&gt;1 Co. 1:18&lt;/a&gt;) and future (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Matt+10%3A+22"&gt;Mat. 10:22&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Redemption &lt;/span&gt;is past (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Pet+1%3A+18"&gt;1 Pet. 1:18&lt;/a&gt;), present (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Col+1%3A+14"&gt;Col. 1:14&lt;/a&gt;) and future (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Eph+4%3A+30"&gt;Eph. 4:30&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Regene&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ration &lt;/span&gt;is past (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Tit+3%3A+5"&gt;Titus 3:5&lt;/a&gt;) and future (Mat. 19:28, Rev. 21:5).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Forgiveness &lt;/span&gt;is past (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=John+20%3A+23"&gt;Jn. 20:23&lt;/a&gt;), present (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+John+1%3A+9"&gt;1 Jn. 1:9&lt;/a&gt;) and future (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Matt+18%3A+34-35"&gt;Mt. 18:34-35&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Adoption &lt;/span&gt;is past (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Eph+1%3A+5"&gt;Eph. 1:5&lt;/a&gt;) and future (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ro+8%3A+23"&gt;Ro. 8:23&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Justification &lt;/span&gt;is past (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ro+5%3A+11"&gt;Ro. 5:11&lt;/a&gt;), present (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ro+6%3A+7"&gt;Ro. 6:7&lt;/a&gt; - "freed"= lit. justified) and future (Mt. 12:37).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sanctification &lt;/span&gt;is past (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Cor+6%3A+11"&gt;1 Co. 6:11&lt;/a&gt;), present (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ro+6%3A+22"&gt;Ro. 6:22&lt;/a&gt;) and future (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Thesst+5%3A+23"&gt;1 Thess 5:23&lt;/a&gt; - see also &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+Thess+2%3A+13"&gt;2 Thess. 2:13&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Glorification &lt;/span&gt;is past (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Ro+8%3A+30"&gt;Ro. 8:30&lt;/a&gt;, i.e.  proleptically), present (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Pet+3%3A+18"&gt;1 Pet. 1:8&lt;/a&gt;) and future (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+Thess+1%3A+10-12"&gt;2 Thess. 1:10-12&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.mirandaloud.com/images/listen_13.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 227px; height: 235px;" src="http://www.mirandaloud.com/images/listen_13.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Much carnage has resulted among Christians because of the fundamental failure to &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Prov+18%3A+13"&gt;ask what someone means by the words they're using&lt;/a&gt;.  So the next time the theologically meticulous and doctrinaire among us (yeah, I'm included) are tempted to take someone to task for their theological imprecision, we can ask ourselves whether it's wise to indict the New Testament writers along with them.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-6263534176223593233?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/6263534176223593233/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=6263534176223593233&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/6263534176223593233'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/6263534176223593233'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2007/01/war-of-words.html' title='War of the Words'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-7907115680267153276</id><published>2006-12-30T21:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-31T00:52:30.829-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confessions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Personal'/><title type='text'>Just Took a Break</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://static.flickr.com/95/205440990_654358e840_o.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 272px; height: 204px;" src="http://static.flickr.com/95/205440990_654358e840_o.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Usually courteous bloggers who value their readership announce their intentions to take a break for awhile.  Some even tell them when they can be expected to be back.  If anyone is still reading this cyber-rag, which I highly doubt, they'll have to settle for much, much less -but at least they're used to that - &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;namely, the announcement that I just took a break&lt;/span&gt;.  Not a very useful report, I know, especially since that blogging vacation was time off from what was some rather infrequent posting in the first place; but the break is over and I'm resolved to make 2007 much more fruitful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the posts I'm looking forward to in January will be an interview with author and professor of Old Testament and Biblical hermeneutics at Westminster Theological Seminary, Dr. Peter Enns (whose book I reviewed &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/enns-piration_05.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/enns-piration-pt-2.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; as well as responding to criticisms of my review &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/ack.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) - so look for that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.mikeadvised.com/images/scouts_honor.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 214px; height: 300px;" src="http://www.mikeadvised.com/images/scouts_honor.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The result of posting more frequently will probably be an increase in rabid raving about some topic or another.  The new blogger allows for labels, so I've added them to all of my previous posts for easier access - so now I can finally be properly cited in magazines dedicated to interior decorating, budget haircare and preteen gossip.   In any case, please accept my apologies, dear hypothetical readers, and expect your compensatory gift baskets to arrive soon. In the meantime, accept the offering of my slightly updated template.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now, with the sole interest of drawing attention to myself via the magic of technorati, I will insidiously link the posts of various Christian blogs that I'd like to use in order to get myself mentioned or attract their readers:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://euangelizomai.blogspot.com/2006/12/belonging-and-believing.html"&gt;Mike Bird&lt;/a&gt; has some interesting comments on Tom Wright's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Simply Christian&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The illustrious internet monk, &lt;a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/recommendation-and-review-apocalypto"&gt;Michael Spencer&lt;/a&gt; diverges from many critics in his review of Apocalypto.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2006/12/for-last-time-this-year.html"&gt;Phil Johnson&lt;/a&gt; charitably links someone who only mentions him in order to get linked. How shameful, yet shameless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regardless of the odd (as in occasional AND strange) &lt;a href="http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&amp;CategoryID=1&amp;amp;BlogID=2704"&gt;post on postmodernism&lt;/a&gt;, Doug Wilson &lt;a href="http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&amp;CategoryID=1&amp;amp;BlogID=3335"&gt;proves once again&lt;/a&gt; that his voice is worthy to be heard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://faith-theology.blogspot.com/"&gt;Ben Myers&lt;/a&gt; lists &lt;a href="http://faith-theology.blogspot.com/2006/12/blogging-highlights-of-2006.html"&gt;several&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://faith-theology.blogspot.com/2006/12/highlights-of-2006.html"&gt;outstanding &lt;/a&gt;moments in blogging from 2006.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scot McKnight &lt;a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=1864"&gt;comments on a book&lt;/a&gt; called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The End of Memory&lt;/span&gt; by a theologian named Miroslav Volf, who my &lt;a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=1864"&gt;brother&lt;/a&gt; has really enjoyed at Yale.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com/tallskinnykiwi/2006/12/when_the_darkne.html"&gt;The Tall Skinny Kiwi&lt;/a&gt; discusses the merits of John Piper's book on depression, which after reading his post, I think I'll be picking up immediately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://jesustheradicalpastor.blogspot.com/2006/12/one-and-half-thumbs-up-nativity-story.html"&gt;John Frye&lt;/a&gt; breaks the pattern of dismal reactions I've heard about the Christmas release of The Nativity Story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://cafeapocalypsis.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html#4375789839019059485"&gt;Alan Bandy&lt;/a&gt;, who was into the word Apocalypto before it was cool, had a fantastic Christmas post that I think you'll enjoy as much as I did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christilling.de/blog/2006/12/bauckham-responds-iii.html"&gt;Chris Tilling&lt;/a&gt; posted a fantastic series featuring Richard Bauckham - who actually went to the trouble to respond to some commenters.  Go back and read parts 1 and 2 as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2006/12/self-evident-truths-pursuit-of.html"&gt;Ben Witherington&lt;/a&gt; enjoyed The Pursuit of Happyness, as did my wife and I when we saw it this last weekend.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Check out &lt;a href="http://forsclavigera.blogspot.com/"&gt;James K.A. Smith&lt;/a&gt; and Nancey Murphy at NPR's "Speaking of Faith" in &lt;a href="http://publicradio.org/tools/media/player/speakingoffaith/20051020_evangelicalbox"&gt;a feature&lt;/a&gt; called &lt;a href="http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/evangelicalbox/index.shtml"&gt;Evangelicals Out of the Box&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lasalle.edu/%7Egarver/web2printer4.php?img=0&amp;lnk=0&amp;amp;page=http://sacradoctrina.blogspot.com/2006/12/emerging-in-postmodernity.html"&gt;Joel Garver&lt;/a&gt; has some typically insightful things to say about the emerging stuff.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-7907115680267153276?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/7907115680267153276/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=7907115680267153276&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/7907115680267153276'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/7907115680267153276'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/12/just-took-break.html' title='Just Took a Break'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-116473561525337805</id><published>2006-11-28T09:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:26:20.187-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>On ETS and Inerrancy</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;This post is a modified version of the comment I made on the &lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/"&gt;group blog&lt;/a&gt; to which I contribute, but because it's some important news about a constituency of which I claim membership, I thought I'd post it here as well (that sentence sounds like it was constructed by Frasier Crane, doesn't it?):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/scripture%20hebrew.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 232px; height: 154px;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/scripture%20hebrew.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Recently the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_Theological_Society"&gt;Evangelical Theological Society&lt;/a&gt; has claimed the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Statement_on_Biblical_Inerrancy"&gt;Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy&lt;/a&gt; as a non-negotiable necessity for existing members.  This isn't really news, in one sense, since the society has always included inerrancy, along with Trinitarianism, in its spartan self-definition.  The news comes in the i&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ntended effect&lt;/span&gt; of such a move; namely, the expulsion of all members holding to some version of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_theism"&gt;open-theism&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;p&gt;If you're an evangelical, as I am, you might not be shocked that they would want to do such a thing - but if you were present for the recent tribunal of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_Pinnock"&gt;Clark Pinnock&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sanders"&gt;John Sanders&lt;/a&gt; (some of the evangelical architects of the view), you might be surprised at the ensuing discussion.  Several members, most who repudiate open theism, actually opposed the motion for their removal for the same reason that I oppose the aforementioned direction the society is heading.  In short, the weight being placed on the doctrine of inerrancy is far too great, doing a disservice to both the doctrine of inerrancy and the Biblical authority which evangelicals have historically defended.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/image005.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 203px; height: 200px;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/image005.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The society is trying to use inerrancy to guarantee certain interpretive results, which, in the end, mutilates the doctrine.  If the reliability of Scripture is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;functionally equated&lt;/span&gt; to certain theological positions there is no principal reason that, for example, Arminians couldn't be accused of denying inerrancy (they don’t believe in deterministic election).  But the real problem for the largely Calvinist society is that the opposite could just as easily be said if Arminians happened to hold a more powerful persuasion. There are, of course, Arminians who hold to inerrancy, and who also happen to believe that the Scriptures inerrantly teach a certain brand of human free-will! The point is that using inerrancy to defeat their position is smuggling interpretive decisions through the back door. It's lazy at best and an egregious abuse of power at worst (which is ironic, given evangelical mistrust of ecclesiastical hierarchy).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;For a good many open theists the issue comes down to differing understandings of genre and metaphor - they’re not saying that &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;certain passages&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; are erroneous; rather, they think that passages about God changing His mind &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;mean what they say&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, and that it would be a violation of the text (!) to interpret them otherwise. Their failure, in my view (I'm not an open theist) is  an &lt;em&gt;interpretive &lt;/em&gt;failure, not a necessary denigration of the &lt;em&gt;nature of Scripture.&lt;/em&gt;  Robert Chisholm, a conservative OT scholar from Dallas Theological Seminary  (also not an open theist), has made this same observation, and in various OT presentations, has been a voice of reason about the issue.  The end result of this logic is that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;every position&lt;/span&gt; can claim an opposing view to be a “denial of inerrancy”, since every position will putatively be put forward as "the clear teaching of Scripture". &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0830815015.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 172px; height: 258px;" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0830815015.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But the issue extends beyond the treatment of certain passages into the interpretive framework by which they are being approached. Are those who subscribe to a certain species of speech-act theory as a general hermeneutic “denying inerrancy” just because they don’t think that all language is properly binary (true/false)?  Their beliefs about the nature of language make the label of “inerrant” on the whole of Scripture a simple category mistake (i.e. how can a command be “free from error”? It can be reliable toward some end, but not “true” or “false”).   At this point it's clear that the doctrine of inerrancy, if used this way, has become too bloated: not only does it seek to affirm the reliability of Scripture, but a theory of language and interpretive framework as well!   So not only is it the case that inerrancy &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;shouldn’t&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; be given a position of hermeneutical arbitration, but it &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;can’t&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; function in that way. Inerrancy can guard against people who say that certain texts are “wrong” in their theological import - but it can’t guard against people who say that the Bible is, in fact, infallibly claiming one thing or another.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Could I sign the Chicago Statement of Biblical Inerrancy? Absolutely.  Should open theism be excluded from the society on those grounds? Emphatically not.  The issue isn't whether God's foreknowledge is taught in Scripture (I believe it is), or whether its denial is theologically dangerous (it is) - the issue is the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;ground &lt;/span&gt;of such objections.  The precedent of using inerrancy to combat the opposition is completely wrongheaded, and persisting in these tactics will be a course that members will live to regret.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-116473561525337805?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/116473561525337805/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=116473561525337805&amp;isPopup=true' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/116473561525337805'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/116473561525337805'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/11/on-ets-and-inerrancy.html' title='On ETS and Inerrancy'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-116448659244817895</id><published>2006-11-25T13:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:19:30.998-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confessions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Personal'/><title type='text'>"What the hail, Mary?!  Where've you been?!"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3718/1371/1600/164681/confession.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 281px; height: 218px;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3718/1371/200/18287/confession.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Father forgive me, it's been almost two months since my last confession.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I keep wondering if I should just give up the ghost on this thing.  It reminds me of my first few years of marriage, where I was making promises with every intent on fulfilling them, but never actually getting around to it.  But I didn't pull the plug on THAT, now did I?  So (look out, here comes another vain promise), I'll try to keep posting here more regularly (than never, that is).  I've been thinking about posting a targum on Galatians 1, a commentary on the Haggard thing, an essay on video gaming, a reflection on Richard Dawkins, a diatribe about the Christian academy, a review of some of the books I mentioned in my last post, and a confession about my laziness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One post down, six to go (not that any of them will be what I've mentioned here).  Don't hold your breath.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-116448659244817895?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/116448659244817895/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=116448659244817895&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/116448659244817895'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/116448659244817895'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/11/what-hail-mary-whereve-you-been.html' title='&quot;What the hail, Mary?!  Where&apos;ve you been?!&quot;'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-116042850293692982</id><published>2006-10-09T14:47:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:20:41.476-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>Books I Just Bought</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.cmdahome.org/article_images/foolishsm-1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 129px; height: 196px;" alt="" src="http://www.cmdahome.org/article_images/foolishsm-1.jpg" border="0" height="275" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;Foolishness to the Greeks&lt;/em&gt; is one of those books I've been meaning to read, if for no other reason than to understand the footnotes in just about every OTHER book I've already read. In this most classic of his many writings, Newbigin details the stormy interface between the Gospel and Western culture, replete with discussions of science and politics. All of the hype surrounding the word "missional" finds its substance in Newbigin, and that from an experienced missonary in (from my experience, anyway) one of the most culturally Gospel-inocculated countries in the world - India.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://beginningwithmoses.org/images/cover/drama.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; width: 119px; cursor: pointer; height: 191px;" alt="" src="http://beginningwithmoses.org/images/cover/drama.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;em&gt;The Drama of Scripture&lt;/em&gt; is among the first books I've recieved and it is the one I'm currently reading. In the tradition of Cornelius Plantinga's Engaging God's World it's intended as a primer for college students in which Bartholomew and Green give the basic framework for interpreting all of life's experiences. Taking its cues in part from N.T. Wright and Al Wolters, the concept of story guides this treatment of the Christian worldview in six (as opposed to Wright's five) acts. Though the authors are informed by such philosophical luminaries as Alasdair MacIntyre and Nicholas Wolterstorff technical discussion never ends up hogging the camera, as the Biblical story takes center stage. It's proving to be a highly recommended read already. If you're interested in the topic, &lt;a href="http://www.biblicaltheology.ca/"&gt;check out their website&lt;/a&gt;, based on this book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060507152.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; width: 159px; cursor: pointer; height: 239px;" alt="" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060507152.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Being compared to C.S. Lewis in any light is high praise, and Wright's book has recieved plenty of it. With Lewis' Mere Christianity haunting every page, Wright gives compelling reasons for intelligent unbelievers to consider taking Christianity seriously. The primary differnce bewteen the old classic and Wright's likely candidate for future canonization is that the former attempted to reason from commonly held first principles to Christianity along a track of logical necessity whereas the latter simply (note the title) presents the essence of Christian belief with all its internal logical consistency. The result is something that may have been lacking by the end of Lewis' treatment, namely the aesthetics of Christianity. If Lewis addressed the issue of truth, Wright builds upon it an edifice of beauty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/0801027845_01__AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/0801031737_01__SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V52436886_.1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left;" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/200/0801031737_01__SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V52436886_.0.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Having read Francis Watson's impressive and astute &lt;em&gt;Paul and the Hermeneutics of Faith&lt;/em&gt; and being &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/08/kjv-only-well-not-only.html"&gt;a huge fan of anything by Kevin Vanhoozer&lt;/a&gt;, I'm really looking forward to this little book. I've been interested in the topic of theological hermeneutics since I started reading the &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sahs-info.org/volumes.html"&gt;Scripture and Hermeneutics Series&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (I'm currently on volume six), and though I've seen others interact with him some, I've never read anything by Stephen Fowl. With the renewed interest in the topic (even recently spawning a new SBL study group) there's a torrent of literature available, which makes collections of essays one of the more efficient ways to keep up. Vanhoozer's recent book &lt;em&gt;The Drama of Doctrine&lt;/em&gt; attempts to maintain propositional elements lost in postliberal approaches, and seeks to give standards for normative interpretation outside an often wayward Church without falling into the pitfalls of supposedly neutral "scientific" approaches. I'm interested in seeing his interaction with Fowl and Adam on the issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.forbesbookclub.com/bookimages/ingram/080/284/080284541X.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 129px; height: 196px;" alt="" src="http://www.forbesbookclub.com/bookimages/ingram/080/284/080284541X.gif" border="0" height="275" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;One of the recurrent themes in Joel Green's work, both exegetical and theological, is his attempt to bridge the gap between Biblical Studies and dogmatics. Historically at odds with one another, the divide is best seen by the distrust each discipline manifests toward the other. Commentaries repeatedly warn of the danger of importing one's theology into the text while theologians warn of the danger of atomizing the Biblical text, at the same time reminding us that without theology the Bible remains nothing more than an interesting archaeological artifact. In &lt;em&gt;Between Two Horizons: Spanning New Testament Studies and Systematic Theology&lt;/em&gt;, Green and Turner have collected several exciting essays both describing the problems and paving the way for possible solutions. Contributors include Stephen Fowl, Robert Wall, John Christopher Thomas, John Goldingay, Steve Motyer, Trevor Hart and N.T. Wright, as well as an introductory essay by the editors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/bimgdata/FC1587431653.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 129px; height: 196px;" alt="" src="http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/bimgdata/FC1587431653.JPG" border="0" height="275" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I pre-ordered this book by Norman Wirzba based on the title alone. I don't know anything about the author, and I wasn't really looking for something on the subject - but the idea of a Christian theology of enjoying life derived from Israel's Sabbath practices is just fascinating. Working with youth, I've encountered two sorts of kids, both of which see relaxation as a brief worldly respite from the rigors of Christian discipline. The difference is that one kind of kid is cool with the worldly nature of enjoying life (in moderation), while the other isn't. It's the classic divide between libertinism and legalism, and everyone I know (including myself) leans in one direction or the other. I'm hoping this book helps in filling out a third way to a very practical problem.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-116042850293692982?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/116042850293692982/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=116042850293692982&amp;isPopup=true' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/116042850293692982'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/116042850293692982'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/10/books-i-just-bought.html' title='Books I Just Bought'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-116007357202723218</id><published>2006-10-05T12:22:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:21:40.675-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><title type='text'>Being "Christian"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://157.182.176.39/mberdine/English%20102/AdamEveApple.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 187px; height: 265px;" src="http://157.182.176.39/mberdine/English%20102/AdamEveApple.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Sin is at the root of every problem in our lives and everything that’s wrong with the world.  As Christians, we are saying, by God’s mercy, that we’ve come to realize that all of the death, destruction, chaos and pain that we see on a daily basis and that we hate with intensity actually begins with us – our idolatry, our anger, our lusts, our pride and our selfishness. Sometimes its intentional, sometimes it’s not, and even &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;we ourselves&lt;/span&gt; are bewildered by what comes out of our hearts – but we’ve come to see that in turning away from our Creator we have made an awful mess of this planet, of our nation, of our relationships with others and of our own lives – and it’s a mess so big and so a stain so deep that we can never clean it up on our own.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://landru.i-link-2.net/shnyves/christ.Judge2.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 199px; height: 276px;" src="http://landru.i-link-2.net/shnyves/christ.Judge2.jpeg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;We can’t just “be better” people, because being “better” doesn’t mean that we’re “right” – right with God, right with one another, or right with ourselves.  In all of our thoughts and actions we have cast Him aside, we have turned from our Maker to the things He has made in order to get direction for our lives, and in doing that we have so violated our relationship with God, so offended Him with our sin – the effects of it, the willfulness of it, the betrayal in it – that we stand in a state of total guilt and total worthiness of His just retribution. We are responsible.  We are to blame.  There is nowhere else to point the finger - and we must pay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But judgment isn’t our only problem with our sin.  We haven’t just come to realize that we are worthy of judgment, we’ve come to realize that our sins are, in fact, killing us.  They’re destroying us.  Everything that God has made, in all its beauty: food, drink, sex, the glories of nature, the creativity of human expression, all varieties of human relationships – all of these things which God has given us to enlarge our souls, to increase the capacity to have intimacy with Him, to reflect His own beauty – they’re tainted by our sin. The good in these things haven’t been destroyed by our sin, but they’ve been distorted and we abuse these things to our own hurt, which has led to the shrinking and shriveling of our souls.  So instead of liberating us, we become enslaved to them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so our sin doesn’t just cause us to perish in judgment, it is the reason we ARE PERISHING, even now.  We must answer Our Maker for our sins, and in the meantime we are being dehumanized by them.  We’re not just the perpetrators of sin, we’re victims of sin – even our own.  We’re not only awaiting eternal death in judgment, we’re dying &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;now&lt;/span&gt;. We’re slaves to sin and the fear of death. So, what will we do?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.jesuswalk.com/lamb/images/agnusdei_448x280.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 201px; height: 125px;" src="http://www.jesuswalk.com/lamb/images/agnusdei_448x280.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;God’s answer to that question, of course, is "nothing".  There’s nothing &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;WE &lt;/span&gt;can do.  So &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;He &lt;/span&gt;did it.  Because of God’s love for the people He made, He sent Jesus to die in our place and to rise on our behalf.  Jesus’ life demonstrated the freedom and beauty of man without sin.  He offered Himself to God on our behalf and died on our behalf, taking the judgment we deserve and rising again in order to give us new life, a life not dominated by evil.  Jesus has dealt with our sin in his death and is now dealing with our sin in the power of His resurrection.  He is the lamb of God who [PRESENT TENSE] takes away [IS EVEN NOW TAKING AWAY] the sin of the world.  He cancelled its penalty once and for all and He’s conquering its dominion over us &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;even now&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.apocalyptic-theories.com/gallery/newjerusalem/bamberg.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 208px; height: 259px;" src="http://www.apocalyptic-theories.com/gallery/newjerusalem/bamberg.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Christians need the Father’s mercy to continue forgiving us for our sin, His Son, Jesus Christ, to continue interceding on our behalf and you the Holy Spirit to continue washing and sanctifying us from sin.       And that’s exactly what God is doing in the Church.  The Church is the place where sin is being defeated, and God’s righteousness is gaining a foothold, a beachhead, in the world.  And when I say righteousness, I don’t mean some “on your high-horse” fussy, finger-wagging perfection – I mean what the Bible means by that word.  I mean “rightness”.  Everyone, both Christian and non-Christian, knows that something is wrong with the world.  It’s broken. It’s not how it’s supposed to be.  It’s not “right”.       But in the Church God is making things right – He’s making right relationships, right living, right thinking, right loving, right hoping, right feeling, right sorrow, right pain, right suffering, right joy.  That’s righteousness – not some weird abstract standard that’s meant to squash everyone – but the life-giving, relationship restoring “rightness” which reflects who the Creator is, and what every person and culture on earth desperately hungers for (and yet violently opposes) – it’s what Christians call “the kingdom of God” - God’s righteous rule. It’s a wonderful thing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-116007357202723218?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/116007357202723218/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=116007357202723218&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/116007357202723218'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/116007357202723218'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/10/being-christian.html' title='Being &quot;Christian&quot;'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115816255741731021</id><published>2006-09-13T09:42:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:22:07.613-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quotes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>Be a little Jewish - Read a Book</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"One thing I noticed about Evangelicals is that they do not read.  They do not read the Bible, they do not read the great Christian thinkers, they have never heard of Aquinas.  If they're Presbyterian, they've never read the founders of Presbyterianism.  I do not understand that.  As a Jew, that's confusing to me.  The commandment of study is so deep in Judaism that we immerse ourselves in study. God gave us a brain, aren't we to use it in His service?  When I walk into an Evangelical Christian's home and see a total of 30 books, most of them best-sellers, I do not understand.  I have bookcases of Christian books, and I'm a Jew.  Why do I have more Christian books than 98 percent of the Christians in America?  This is so bizarre to me."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;- Dennis Prager in an interview from &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Door&lt;/span&gt; magazine&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115816255741731021?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115816255741731021/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115816255741731021&amp;isPopup=true' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115816255741731021'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115816255741731021'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/09/be-little-jewish-read-book.html' title='Be a little Jewish - Read a Book'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115749940361660532</id><published>2006-09-05T16:54:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:23:11.413-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quotes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Wars and Warnock</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://rant.mivox.com/gfx/truthiness.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://rant.mivox.com/gfx/truthiness.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I may take some time later to comment on some of the &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2006/09/slice-capades.html"&gt;latest Christian blog war&lt;/a&gt; in which our loveable, if less than agreeable, friends sound off against the enemies of Truth (and by "truth", I of course mean that unique hybrid of Reformed and dispensational, premillennial theology with credo-baptist and denominationally independent distinctives, among others) and usurpers of the Bible (and by "Bible" I mean only those theological conclusions that comport with the above).  In the most recent struggle against the forces of evangelical naughtiness (like&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Christianity Today&lt;/span&gt;) it's pointed out that those who accuse faithful defenders (those committed to verbal throat-slitting) of the Truth (see above) with "guilt by association" &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;are actually guilty &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;of guilt-by-association&lt;/span&gt;.  Similarly it seems that those who accuse them of taking themselves too seriously are, in all seriousness, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;taking themselves too seriously&lt;/span&gt; (apply that formula to every criticism and you can &lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/archives/2006/09/01/1244443.html"&gt;create stunning likenesses of some people's posts before they put out the real thing&lt;/a&gt;); -but for now I'll just post this evaluation of the whole mess:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Yuck.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you're interested in a lengthier evaluation, check out &lt;a href="http://www.brokenmessenger.com/2006/09/anti-intellectualism-legalism-love.html"&gt;Broken&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.brokenmessenger.com/2006/09/pomophobia.html"&gt;Messenger&lt;/a&gt; for two excellent, insightful pieces.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.ecfnet.org/my-journal/archives/mlj.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 149px; height: 141px;" src="http://www.ecfnet.org/my-journal/archives/mlj.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But now for something a good deal more refreshing, I'd point you to the eminently likable and relatively controversy-free &lt;a href="http://www.adrian.warnock.info/"&gt;Adrian Warnock&lt;/a&gt;.  Even in debate, he's always the model of charity, and he's recently posted &lt;a href="http://www.adrian.warnock.info/2006/09/charismatic-debate-responding-to-dan.htm"&gt;a wonderful closer to a dispute about cessationism&lt;/a&gt;.  In it he's quoted one of his heroes, D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones, and it was such a good read that I just had to reproduce it here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:trebuchet ms;" &gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"What is being taught in Christendom today is this; that since we have got the New Testament canon, since we have got the Word now, we do not need these direct interventions, we do not need God to speak to us directly, as He spoke to Abraham and to Isaac and to Jacob and these patriarchs. We have got the Word now! Is this superior to the direct speech of God? I think we are mad! There is no other word for this. We are mad. We are meant to be in a superior position to every Old Testament saint because of what has happened in our blessed Lord and Saviour! But this teaching would have us believe that we do not need this direct contact with God now, and that all that has come to an end since the formation of the New Testament canon . . . . .remember that the great point of the whole teaching of the Bible, of all you can deduce from it, is to tell you that God is a God who acts. And our only hope this afternoon is that this is still true. He has not finished acting. He is going on . . . There is only one hope. That is that He is still the living and the acting God. Christ is at His right hand, and He is seated and waiting until His enemies should be made His footstool . . . ."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been defending the faith—- and people have praised me for doing it. Rubbish! What a miserable failure it has all been! From now on I am determined to do one thing only, and that is to give God no rest nor peace, until He does prove Himself and show Himself. I have expended so much energy in reasoning with the people about this faith. We have got to do that, it is part of preaching. But if we stop at that, it will avail us nothing. But what I now am concerned about and I am concentrating on is this — asking God to show Himself, to do something,to give this touch, this manifestation of power. Nothing else will even make people listen to us . . . . Nothing is going to call the attention of the masses of the people to the truth of this faith save a great phenomenon, such as the phenomenon of the day of Pentecost, the phenomenon of any one of the great revivals, the phenomenon of a single changed life. This is something that always arrests attention, maybe curiosity — what does it matter? The people come and listen . . . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must not be content until we have had some manifestation of the activity of God. We must concentrate on this. This is my plea, that we concentrate on this, because it is the great message of the Bible Let us put it like this: Do we really believe that God can still act? That is the question; that is the ultimate challenge. Or have we, for theological or some other reasons, excluded the very possibility? Here is the crucial matter. Do we individually and personally really believe that God still acts, can act and will act — in individuals, in groups of individuals, in churches, localities, perhaps even in countries? Do we believe that He is as capable of doing that today as He was in ancient times — the Old Testament, the New Testament times, the book of Acts, Protestant Reformation, Puritans, Methodist Awakening, 1859, 1904-5? Do we really believe that He can still do it? You see, it is ultimately what you believe about God. If He is the great Jehovah — I am that I am, I am that I shall be, unchanged, unchanging, unchangeable, the everlasting and eternal God — well, He can still do it.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115749940361660532?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115749940361660532/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115749940361660532&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115749940361660532'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115749940361660532'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/09/wars-and-warnock.html' title='Wars and Warnock'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115687203188449306</id><published>2006-08-29T10:54:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:25:09.163-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>K.J.V. Only (Well, not ONLY . . .)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://wvvw.tiu.edu/ctu/images/0304images/ldkevin_vanhoozer.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 279px; height: 182px;" src="http://wvvw.tiu.edu/ctu/images/0304images/ldkevin_vanhoozer.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;As I strolled into my office this morning, flicking on the light and slapping my bag onto the desk in one rehearsed, fluid motion, I suddenly stopped and realized – I’ve got three books by the same author lying there and they happen to be three of my favorite books.  The oldest is called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Is There a Meaning in This Text?&lt;/span&gt;, the second a newer acquisition, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Dictiona&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ry for Theological Interpretation of the Bible &lt;/span&gt;and the third, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Drama of Doctrine&lt;/span&gt; – all by Kevin J. Vanhoozer, Research Professor of Systematic Theology at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School.  Maybe more remarkable than the fact that they were all written (or edited, in the case of the dictionary) by the same man are the range of topics involved in each book.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Is There a Meaning&lt;/span&gt; engages postmodern interpretation in the field of hermeneutics.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;DTIB&lt;/span&gt; blends biblical, systematic and historical theology with hermeneutics to create the quirkiest interdisciplinary resource in my library.  My newest addition is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Drama of Doctrine: A Canonical-Linguistic Approach to Christian Theology&lt;/span&gt;, which (again) blends my two favorite subjects, theology and hermeneutics, into what promises to be another tasty read.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Though I’ve mentioned my appreciation for him before, I didn’t really realize that I was a Vanhoozer fanboy until today, so I haven’t given much thought as to why that is – but here’s a Rorschach-shaped reactionary first guess:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.colossiansthreesixteen.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/Rodin%20-%20Thinker.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.colossiansthreesixteen.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/Rodin%20-%20Thinker.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;He’s a both a scholar AND self-consciously Christian:&lt;/span&gt; In every book and lecture it’s abundantly clear that Vanhoozer’s interests aren’t just academic – he sees theology as fundamentally a task for the Church to be done by the Church.  While many claim to be interested in a theology which refuses to divorce knowledge from practice Vanhoozer actually makes the Church’s practice a fundamental factor in theorizing about doctrine.  But beyond this, all of his scholarship begins with rigorous Christian foundations, making use of Christian resources to answer hermeneutical and theological problems.  For all of his kind and critical engagement, he never pretends that Christianity is a peer among equals in the marketplace of ideas.  Scripture has always taken an unapologetically central role in  his work (a fact not easily recognized &lt;a href="http://www.reformation21.com/Previous_Issues/Archive_Shelf_Life/Shelf_Life/Shelf_Life/196/vobId__3294/"&gt;if all you’re doing is looking for references in an index&lt;/a&gt;).  Moreover, his scholarship is actually an astonishing testimony of the Spirit’s work, as it intentionally aims at love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control and &lt;a href="http://www.reformation21.com/Vanhoozer_responds/238/"&gt;humility&lt;/a&gt; – a rare commodity in this level of scholarship (and an even rarer commodity in the robustly Reformed circles Vanhoozer resides).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;He engages postmodernism both critically AND thoughtfully:&lt;/span&gt;  Though Vanhoozer has, in his words, “cooled to speech-act theory” as a solution for every problem presented by postmodern criticism, his book &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Is There a Meaning in This Text? &lt;/span&gt;is near universally acclaimed as one of the most impressive and even-handed criticisms of postmodernism by someone arguing for authorial intention.  His most recent offering in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;DoD&lt;/span&gt; does for postliberal theology what &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Is There a Meaning?&lt;/span&gt; did for postmodern literary theory, harvesting the wheat and leaving the chaff.  His disposition of “disputation” (for an explanation, see another wonderful contribution of Vanhoozer’s in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1587431084/002-3466674-2392846?v=glance&amp;n=283155"&gt;Christianity and the Postmodern Turn: Six Views&lt;/a&gt;) in regard to contemporary offerings is able to mine the gems without collecting rocks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.detinet.nl/uploads/2-6Mar2005-spongebob.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.detinet.nl/uploads/2-6Mar2005-spongebob.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;He’s thought-provoking AND funny: &lt;/span&gt; Much like N.T. Wright, there’s a subtle wit about Vanhoozer’s presentation that is fun to read and even more fun to hear.  Puns, double-entendre, and other wry humor is littered through every article, book and lecture in a way my brother finds annoying, but I rather enjoy.  Glance through &lt;a href="http://www.reformation21.com/Vanhoozer_responds/238/"&gt;his response to Paul Helm&lt;/a&gt; at Reformation 21 and the corner of your mouth is bound to curl a few times.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;He’s theologically creative AND traditional:&lt;/span&gt;  One of the most encouraging things about Vanhoozer’s work is that it pushes in new directions without being detached from the various anchors of faithfully Biblical scholarship.  Beyond affirming all of the vanilla creeds, Vanhoozer’s commitment to Scripture’s perfection, authority and necessary guidance for the Church stands out from other scholars of his caliber.  Like so few constructive theologians, Vanhoozer is able to employ new metaphors, develop new frameworks and offer critical evaluation of older models without pulling at the fundamental roots of Christian belief and practice - and maybe more significantly, without ever losing his distinctively evangelical commitment.  Even when I find myself in something less than enthusiastic agreement with him (which, of course, I sometimes do – I’m a &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;fanboy&lt;/span&gt;, not a &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;cult member&lt;/span&gt;), his proposals never raise my hackles as pushing the limits too far.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;He’s profound AND prolific:&lt;/span&gt;  The challenging and thought-provoking material isn’t only daunting in its quality, but &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/002-3466674-2392846?ie=UTF8&amp;index=books&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;rank=-relevance%2C%2Bavailability%2C-daterank&amp;field-author-exact=Kevin%20J.%20Vanhoozer"&gt;in its quantity&lt;/a&gt;. As with N.T. Wright, there’s never fear that you’ll be left wanting more – there’s too much already.  There are at least five books he’s edited or written which I’d still like to read, given enough time - including his &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Cambridge Companion to Postmodern Theology&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Biblical Narrative in the Philosophy of Paul Ricoeur: A Study in Hermeneutics&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Theology and The Trinity in a Pluralistic Age: Theological Essays on Culture and Religion&lt;/span&gt;.         &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115687203188449306?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115687203188449306/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115687203188449306&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115687203188449306'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115687203188449306'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/08/kjv-only-well-not-only.html' title='K.J.V. Only (Well, not ONLY . . .)'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115585668698718118</id><published>2006-08-17T15:15:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:25:38.922-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>After Virtue, pt. 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.fsu.edu/%7Ephilo/images/aristotle.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.fsu.edu/%7Ephilo/images/aristotle.JPG" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; In &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;After Virtue&lt;/span&gt; Alasdair MacIntyre documents the monumental failure of morality that has characterized modern ethics in the Enlightement tradition.  The historiography comes to a head in a chapter called "Nietzsche or Aristotle?" wherein the author makes the astonishing claim that the the way forward in ethical theory lies in just this sharp disjunction.  Having rejected Aristotle in the 15th-17th C. (embedded in the Jewish, Christian and Islamic traditions which appropriated it), the successive attempts to ground morality ultimately disintegrated into Nietzsche's realization that there is no rational justification for morality, and all such attempts simply conceal the irrational will rather than reveal moral truths.  As he goes on to develop the case for virtue ethics, then, MacIntyre isn't just suggesting one of several ways forward - he's presenting it as the only available option!  The choice to be made, though, isn't a strict exposition of Aristotle's ethics exactly as he concieved it, but a critical and constructive appropriation of the Aristotlean tradition - the pursuit of "the good life" in relationship to man's ultimate end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speaking of virtue, he says:&lt;blockquote&gt;The virtues therefore are to be understood as those dispositions which will not only sustain practices and enable us to achieve the goods internal to practices, but which will also sustain us in the relevant kind of quest for the good, by enabling us to overcome the harms, dangers, temptations and distractions which we encounter, and which will furnish us with increasing self-knowledge and increasing knowledge of the good. The catalogue of the virtues will therefore include the virtues required to sustain the kind of households and the kind of political communities in which men and women can seek for the good together and the virtues necessary for philosophical enquiry about the character of the good. We have then arrived at a provisional conclusion about the good life for man: the good life for man is the life spent in seeking for the good life for man, and the virtues necessary for the seeking are those which will enable us to understand what more and what else the good life for man is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://mper.chez-alice.fr/images/Nietzsche.GIF"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://mper.chez-alice.fr/images/Nietzsche.GIF" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Any account of ethics, then, that seeks to avoid descending into Nietzsche's nihilism must provide both an account of a unified human &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;telos&lt;/span&gt; (which provides aribration for our actions and avoids seeing life as a series of unrelated moral dilemmas) and the appropriate social context in which human virtue can be exemplified (analagous to the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;polis&lt;/span&gt;).  This suggestion is made over against modernism's unscucessful attempts to ground morality without a defensible telos, and that in a context of act-centered (rather than agent-centered) liberal individualism.  The question, for me at least, is how MacIntyre's project may prove helpful for a distinctively Christian ethics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not a philosopher - and though reasonably intelligent, I'm not very well-informed on topics such as these.  At best, I'm a curious fellow with too much time on his hands, so any criticism has to be taken with a grain of salt and without the expectation that Alasdair MacIntyre will fall upon his pen upon reading my critique - but I do have at least one major misgiving with his conception of ethics, as I've understood it (or, more likely, as I've failed to understand it).  What seems to be lacking is the role that Truth (capital 'T') might play in moral discourse.  I can't see how what MacIntyre is doing in this book isn't just a kind of pragmatism which, at best, can provide intelligibility for ethics, but is ulimately very little help in actual moral discourse.  The lack of some kind of standard or rule by which both community and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;telos &lt;/span&gt;can be measured makes appropriating this sort of thing kind of difficult.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.tullylegal.com/200_drama-masks.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 157px; height: 145px;" src="http://www.tullylegal.com/200_drama-masks.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I'm interested to see how the subject of ethics comes up in Vanhoozer's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Drama of Doctrine: A Canonical-Linguistic Approach to Christian Theology&lt;/span&gt;.  Where postliberals have inserted the role of community and culture in formulating the doctrine which gives sense to ethics, postconservatives like Vanhoozer have replaced it with the canon of Scripture. Similarly, Vanhoozer seems to Vanhoozer seems to give the place narrative plays  in MacIntyre and Hauerwas to a much larger framework (drama), of which narrative is only one component.  As interesting as I've found &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;After Virtue&lt;/span&gt;, I'm looking forward to the more self-consciously Christian conception in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;DoD&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115585668698718118?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115585668698718118/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115585668698718118&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115585668698718118'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115585668698718118'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/08/after-virtue-pt-2.html' title='After Virtue, pt. 2'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115507061415445494</id><published>2006-08-08T11:28:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:26:04.965-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Pomo Showdown</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;UPDATE: I've just read &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://prosthesis.blogspot.com/2006/08/me-on-wilson-on-smith-on-postmodernism.html"&gt;Macht&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/archives/2006/08/09/1443845.html/trackback/"&gt;Joel Hunter's&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; comments on Wilson's review, which both state that Wilson has dodged, missed or otherwise entirely avoided Smith's point - that's what I get for talking about a book I've never actually read.  In any case the one thing that Wilson does bring up, which I'd like to hear someone address, is the question I raised in this post: How are people to ajudicate between rival interpretations without falling prey to stock postmodern criticisms?  If everyone ultimately can only evaluate other interpretations from the standpoint of their own, what's the way out of that particular &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;cul-de-sac&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;? C'mon, Joel, I said HELP!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.ccojubilee.org/ministrystories/jubileepix2004/BigPix/JUB04_1236.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 206px; height: 165px;" src="http://www.ccojubilee.org/ministrystories/jubileepix2004/BigPix/JUB04_1236.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Doug Wilson just posted a &lt;a href="http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&amp;CategoryID=1&amp;amp;BlogID=2645"&gt;tantalizing review&lt;/a&gt; of J.K.A. Smith's book, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Who's Afraid of Postmodernism?&lt;/span&gt; I've been wanting to pick this one up since it was commended to me by &lt;a href="http://metalepsis.blogspot.com/"&gt;Sir Bryan Lee&lt;/a&gt;, my good friend and Captain of the Intelligently Postmodern Brigade.  I have to say, at first glance, I have a feeling I'd probably be more sympathetic to Wilson's take.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll be posting a bit more about Alasdair MacIntyre's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;After Virtue&lt;/span&gt; shortly, but Wilson's comments give voice to nagging concerns even as I've enjoyed the book thus far - namely the fear that once MacIntyre has destroyed the blighted secularism which has given birth to the current moral crises of our day, his sociological analysis will be powerless to commend a truly Christian alternative.  The questions raised by Wilson are all the same ones I've come up against in reading Lindbeck and Hauerwas - they are so robustly and self-confidently Christian it's positively exhilerating - until the issue of engagement comes to the fore.  For all the pitfalls of "cognitive-propositional"  models of doctrine, and all the benefits of a narrative approach, how does a particular person's narrative climb out of the spongy morass of pluralism to assert itself without falling prey to the same criticisms as Enlightenment positivism?  How can the Gospel be proclaimed without the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Sitz im Leben&lt;/span&gt; of one &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;hors'dourve&lt;/span&gt; being offered from a tray of several equally tasty choices?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.pointsouth.com/apologia/books/pic_dwilson.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 125px; height: 167px;" src="http://www.pointsouth.com/apologia/books/pic_dwilson.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I think Reformed resources provide the the only theologically viable raw material for a Biblically sustainable alternative - Plantinga's modest foundationalism, Vanhoozer's chastised version of intentionality, and Wright's critical realism are a good start (yeah, I said N.T. Wright: there's a lot more Reformed people should appreciate about the guy, Piper's latest sermon notwithstanding).  The more I listen to someone like Tim Keller, the more I'm convinced of Reformed theology's potential value in navigating the postmodern world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However necessary and beautiful the call to community formation, these authors inevitably blunt the imperial force of the Gospel, which is wrapped up in Jesus' lordship - or do they? Joel Hunter, the resident postmodern poster-boy at &lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/"&gt;the Boar's Head Tavern&lt;/a&gt;, if you're reading this - help!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115507061415445494?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115507061415445494/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115507061415445494&amp;isPopup=true' title='42 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115507061415445494'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115507061415445494'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/08/pomo-showdown.html' title='Pomo Showdown'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>42</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115413320608699795</id><published>2006-07-28T18:00:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:26:46.363-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quotes'/><title type='text'>Who Said the Following (NO GOOGLING!!!)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;In light of the series of posts about justification going on over at &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2006/07/great-exchange-part-2.html"&gt;Pyromaniacs&lt;/a&gt;, I thought I'd give the following quiz, just for funsies.  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;So, without using any technological wizardry, like internet search engines, tell me: who said the following?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://theopedia.com/wiki/images/thumb/1/12/Sanders.jpg/175px-Sanders.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://theopedia.com/wiki/images/thumb/1/12/Sanders.jpg/175px-Sanders.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;What we are trying to do here is own up to the teaching of Romans 5:1, for example, that teaches that we are already justified before God. God does not wait to the end of our lives in order to declare us righteous. In fact, we would not be able to have the assurance and freedom in order to live out the radical demands of Christ unless we could be confident that because of our faith we already stand righteous before him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nevertheless, we must also own up to the fact that our final salvation is made contingent upon the subsequent obedience which comes from faith. The way these two truths fit together is that we are justified on the basis of our first act of faith because God sees in it (like he can see the tree in an acorn) the embryo of a life of faith. This is why those who do not lead a life of faith with its inevitable obedience simply bear witness to the fact that their first act of faith was not genuine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The textual support for this is that Romans 4:3 cites Genesis 15:6 as the point where Abraham was justified by God. This is a reference to an act of faith early in Abraham's career. Romans 4:l9-22, however, refers to an experience of Abraham many years later (when he was 100 years old, see Genesis 2l:5,l2) and says that because of the faith of this experience Abraham was reckoned righteous. In other words, it seems that the faith which justified Abraham is not merely his first act of faith but the faith which gave rise to acts of obedience later in his life. (The same thing could be shown from James 2:2l-24 in its reference to a still later act in Abraham's life, namely, the offering of his son, Isaac, in Genesis 22.) The way we put together these crucial threads of Biblical truth is by saying that we are indeed justified on the basis of our first act of faith &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;but not without reference to all the subsequent acts of faith which give rise to the obedience that God demands&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.duke.edu/religion/home/EP/paul.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.duke.edu/religion/home/EP/paul.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;B.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;When we stand before Christ as Judge we will be judged according to our deeds in this life. "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad (2 Co. 5:10)." This is not an isolated teaching in the New Testament. Jesus said in Matthew 16:27, "The Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels; and will then recompense every person according to his deeds." And in the very last chapter of the Bible Jesus said, "Behold, I am coming quickly, and my reward is with me, to render to every person according to what he has done" (Rev. 22:12). In other words the way you live is not unimportant. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Now the more difficult question: why is it important? Why are the deeds done in the body the evidence in this courtroom? Is the aim of this judgment to declare who is lost and who is saved, according to the works done in the body? Or is the aim of this judgment to declare the measure of your reward in the age to come according to the works done in the body? I think the answer of the New Testament is both&lt;/span&gt;. Our deeds will reveal who enters the age to come, and our deeds will reveal the measure of our reward in the age to come  . . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;How then can I say that the judgment of believers will not only be the public declaration of the measure of our reward in the kingdom of God according to our deeds, but will also be the public declaration of our salvation—our entering the kingdom—according to our deeds? The answer in a couple sentences is that our deeds will be the public evidence brought forth in Christ's courtroom to demonstrate that our faith is real. And our deeds will be the public evidence brought forth to demonstrate the varying measures of our obedience of faith (cf. Rom. 12:3; 1Thess. 1:3; 2 Thess. 1:11). In other words, salvation is by faith, and rewards are by faith, but the evidence of invisible faith in the judgment hall of Christ will be a transformed life. Our deeds are not the basis of our salvation, they are the evidence of our salvation. They are not foundation, they are demonstration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/images/Portraits/AP_wright-nt.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.preteristarchive.com/images/Portraits/AP_wright-nt.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;C. And we now discover that this declaration, this vindication, occurs twice. It occurs in the future, as we have seen, on the basis of the entire life a person has led in the power of the Spirit – that is, it occurs on the basis of ‘works’ in Paul’s redefined sense. And, near the heart of Paul’s theology, it occurs in the present as an anticipation of that future verdict, when someone, responding in believing obedience to the ‘call’ of the gospel, believes that Jesus is Lord and that God raised him from the dead. This is the point about justification by faith – to revert to the familiar terminology: it is the anticipation in the present of the verdict which will be reaffirmed in the future. Justification is not ‘how someone becomes a Christian’. It is God’s declaration about the person who has just become a Christian. And, just as the final declaration will consist, not of words so much as of an event, namely, the resurrection of the person concerned into a glorious body like that of the risen Jesus, so the present declaration consists, not so much of words, though words there may be, but of an event, the event in which one dies with the Messiah and rises to new life with him, anticipating that final resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.catholic-heritage.net/papal_visit/images/pv-f1109.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.catholic-heritage.net/papal_visit/images/pv-f1109.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;D.  [Justification] is similar to the case of a sick man who believes the doctor who promises him a sure recovery and in the meantime obeys the doctor's order in the hope of the promised recovery&lt;/span&gt; [from his sinful tendencies] and abstains from those things which have been forbidden him [by the doctor], so that he may in no way hinder the promised return to health or increase his sickness until the doctor can fulfill his promise to him. Now is this sick man well' The fact is that he is both sick and well. He is sick in fact but he is well [regarded as righteous] because of the sure promise of the doctor, whom he trusts and who has reckoned him as already cured, because he is sure that he will cure him . . . . In the same way Christ, our Samaritan, has brought His half-dead man into the inn to be cared for, and He has begun to heal him, having promised him the most complete cure unto eternal life, and He does not impute his sins, that is, his wicked desires, unto death, but in the meantime in the hope of the promised recovery He prohibits him from doing or omitting things by which his cure might be impeded . . . . Now is he perfectly righteous' No, for he is at the same time both a sinner and a righteous man; a sinner in fact, but a righteous man by the sure imputation and promise of God that He will continue to deliver him from sin until he has completely cured him. And he is entirely healthy in hope [in spe], but in fact [in rei] still a sinner . . . . &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;But now if this sick man should like his sickness and refuse every cure for his disease, will he not die' Certainly, for thus it is with those who follow their lusts in this world&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br 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(the pictures are suggestive, not necessarily indicative of the 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class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115413320608699795?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115413320608699795/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115413320608699795&amp;isPopup=true' title='20 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115413320608699795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115413320608699795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/07/who-said-following-no-googling.html' title='Who Said the Following (NO GOOGLING!!!)'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>20</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115384097175517638</id><published>2006-07-25T09:07:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:27:19.929-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quotes'/><title type='text'>The Prophet</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;My lonely heart athirst, I trod&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A barren waste when, so t'was fated,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;a winged serapy 'fore me stood:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Where crossed the desert roads he waited.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.depts.drew.edu/russ/Pushkinself.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 365px; height: 281px;" src="http://www.depts.drew.edu/russ/Pushkinself.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Upon my orbs of sightless clay&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;His fingers lightly he did lay,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;And like a  startled eagle round me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I gazed and saw the earth surrounded,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Hemmed by sky . . . He touched my ear,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Then t'other, and most marked and clear,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;There came to me the gentle flutter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Of angel's wings, I heard the vine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;push through the earth and skyward climb,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;the deep-sea monsters in the water,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;like tiny fishes glide. . . . And o'er&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Me calm he bent and out he tore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;my sinful tongue . . . not once withdrawing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;His gaze from mine, he pushed, unseen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;a serpent's deadly sting between&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;my ice-cold lips . . . Then swiftly drawing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;His shining sword, he clove my breast,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Plucked out my quivering heart, and sombre&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;And grim of aspect, cooly thrust&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Into the gaping hole an ember&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;That ran with flame . . . I lay there, dead&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;And God, God, spake, and this He said:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.ticketsofrussia.ru/lavra/monastyr/gost2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 374px; height: 458px;" src="http://www.ticketsofrussia.ru/lavra/monastyr/gost2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Arise O sage, and my call hearing,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Do as I bid, be naught deterred.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Stride o'er the earth a prophet searing,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The hearts of men with rightoues word."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aleksandr Pushkin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;1826&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(translated by Irina Zheleznova)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115384097175517638?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115384097175517638/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115384097175517638&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115384097175517638'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115384097175517638'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/07/prophet.html' title='The Prophet'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115351715858295977</id><published>2006-07-21T14:38:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:27:39.348-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>After Virtue, pt. 1</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.cmdahome.org/article_images/aftervirtuelg.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.cmdahome.org/article_images/aftervirtuelg.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I've been reading a fascinating book about moral theory from Alasdair MacIntyre called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;After Virtue&lt;/span&gt;.  His insights on traditional Western conceptions of ethics and contemporary ethical debate are so tantalizing and thought-provoking that I decided to post a brief series of reflections on what I'm reading.  Here's the first:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the most common criticisms about Christian morality in the public square is that it is fundamentally sectrian.  The accusation of tribalism is probably the most frequently cited evidence of religion's failure to provide ethical norms which can lead humanity out of the intractable moral debates and political tensions in which we find ourselves. Public reason, it is said, must necessarily exclude private religious conviction if there is to be any hope for positive political solutions to issues such as abortion, sexual and racial exclusion, millitary agression, economic imperialism, and the like.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2005/12.01/photos/31-chomsky1-450.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 254px; height: 169px;" src="http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2005/12.01/photos/31-chomsky1-450.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In the first few chapters of MacIntyre's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;After Virtue&lt;/span&gt; it becomes clear that what he calls the "shrill" tone of contemporary moral debate is due to just this kind of tribalism, even after religion has been excluded from the public square.  Observing the nature of moral debate easily demonstrates this, as opposing proponents each defend their positions with equally valid arguments based on differing values.  Once the arguments are forced back to the expression of these values, such as in the case of abortion which pits "individual freedom" against "protection of the innocent" or "the principle of unviersalizability" (you do not wish that your mother should have had an abortion, therefore you cannnot allow this in the case of others), one has no rational criteria to choose one over the other. This, in turn, results in the fundamentally non-rational, arbitrary choice of personal conviction which is ultimately commended as public policy.  Thus the secular landscape is no more plagued with tribalism than religious spheres of moral debate, and the facade of moral reasoning covers what amounts to personal preference.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl201/images/portraits/kierkegaard.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 169px; height: 217px;" src="http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl201/images/portraits/kierkegaard.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;MacIntyre gives historical reasons for this situation in recounting Kant's refutation of Hume's grounding of morality in desires rather than in reason.  Kierkegaard then went beyond both Hume and Kant in rejecting both reason and passion as the ground for morality, opting instead for radical, criterionless choice.  The respective failures of each view resulted in the marginalization of philosophical ethics and rational justification in the public square, hence the environment of moral relativism which dominates our culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This discussion is leading up to MacIntyre's account of the failure of the Enlightenment and the modern project to provide rational grounds for moral justification - but even at this point the implications of his argument are startling.  It extends a problem which is typically characterized as a &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;religious &lt;/span&gt;one - namely, how should believers participate in making public policy for those who don't share their beliefs - to the secular kingdoms of this world.  On what grounds can &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;anyone &lt;/span&gt;justify their public policy recommendations?  If it can't be "reason" or "rationality", what's left of secular resources to answer the question?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115351715858295977?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115351715858295977/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115351715858295977&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115351715858295977'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115351715858295977'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/07/after-virtue-pt-1.html' title='After Virtue, pt. 1'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115274647372640155</id><published>2006-07-12T16:44:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:28:09.614-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Here Comes the Judge . . .</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.geocities.com/ianofrhs/joewapner.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 204px; height: 158px;" src="http://www.geocities.com/ianofrhs/joewapner.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; In 1 Corinthians 4:3-5 Paul says, "But to me it is a very small thing that I may be examined by you, or by any human court; in fact, I do not even examine myself. 4 For I am conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this acquitted; but the one who examines me is the Lord. 5 Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some form of the word " &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;judgment&lt;/span&gt;" appears 4 times in these three verses (although the word really has more of the idea of investigation than the final banging of a gavel – that’s why the NAS translates it "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;examine&lt;/span&gt;”), which  highlights the activity of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;skeptical, destructive criticism&lt;/span&gt;. Another way of reading it might be “It’s a very small thing to me to be &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;cross-examined&lt;/span&gt; by you.”  I think these verses are particularly noteworthy in the blogosphere, if for no other reason than for just how bold a response it is to those who are acting as judge.  It's hard to imagine recommending that someone respond to another believer’s criticisms by saying, “Honestly, your opinion means very little to me – in fact, they mean next to nothing. So anyway . . . thanks!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet that's effectively what Paul did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://autonomoussource.com/mt-static/images/paulears.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 221px; height: 255px;" src="http://autonomoussource.com/mt-static/images/paulears.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In doing that, he was NOT saying: &lt;b&gt;1)&lt;/b&gt; that he doesn’t care about how what he does affects other people. This is the same Paul who wrote those famous words about love (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20co%2013:1-13&amp;version=47"&gt;13:1-13&lt;/a&gt;) in the same letter he wrote this.&lt;b&gt;2)&lt;/b&gt; that Christians can never judge anything about one another. Again, in the very same letter he wrote about people engaging in open, obvious sin, saying “Do you not judge those who are within the church? The implied answer is “yes, you should!” He goes on to rebuke them for not having judges to judge between fellow believers in ch. 6.&lt;b&gt;3)&lt;/b&gt; that he has a “the Lord told me” get out of jail free card which exalts his behavior above accountability.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what he was up against wasn't loving believers holding one another accountable for their sin - it was the same kind of overbearing, finger-pointing, camel-swallowing, gnat-straining, foaming-at-the-mouth, fault-finding false judgment that Jesus rebuked in the Pharisees. Those who have been blogging for long know what this is like, those who don't even know what a blog is should probably just take a moment to thank Jesus right now.  If you're unsure about what this looks like, and have a stomach that's a bit too sensitive for checking out some of the fire-and-blogstone for yourself, just take a peek at &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2023:1-13;&amp;version=47;"&gt;Matthew 23:1-13&lt;/a&gt;.  Jesus illustrates the the problem well with those in His own day who were "sitting in the seat of Moses", "tying up heavy loads" to lay upon people without "lifting a finger" to help, and in all other ways barring people from the kingdom of heaven.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However the Corinthians were evaluating Paul, we know that their determinations of the value of his ministry (and their arrogant assumptions about God's evaluation of  it) didn't mean much to him because, as &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20co%204:1-2;&amp;version=47;"&gt;1 Co. 4:1-2&lt;/a&gt; said, he's Christ's slave, not theirs.   It’s only on the “day of the Lord” that these things will be made known, and the Corinthians will be standing next to him, not over him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Paul wasn’t just saying that the Corinthians had no right to judge these things – &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20co%204:3;&amp;version=47;"&gt;look again at verse 3&lt;/a&gt;: he said that even he &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;HIMSELF &lt;/span&gt;had no right to judge. That’s a profound thing to think about.  God is judge not just because it’s His sovereign right and not yours (even though that’s true), but because He’s the only One wise enough to do it.  So it’s not just that you shouldn’t judge other slaves of Christ, you should realize that you &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;CAN’T &lt;/span&gt;really judge them – you can’t even judge yourself!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://research.unc.edu/endeavors/spr2005/images/edwards.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 178px; height: 206px;" src="http://research.unc.edu/endeavors/spr2005/images/edwards.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In 1734, during Jonathan Edwards'  pastorate in Northampton, somewhere close to 300 people came to Christ – men, women and even children. Edwards said that “some came some weeping with sorrow and distress, others with joy and love, others with pity and concern for the souls of their neighbors.”  In writing about what he experienced in his ministry, leading these people and discipling them, he said this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I know there is a great aptness in men who suppose they have had some experience of the power of religion, to think themselves sufficient to discern and determine the state of others by a little conversation with them; and experience has taught me that this is an error. I once did not imagine that the heart of man had been so unsearchable as it is. I am less charitable, and less uncharitable than once I was. I find more doings in wicked men that may counterfeit, and make a fair show of piety; and more ways that the remaining corruption of the godly may make them appear like carnal men, formalists, and dead hypocrites, than once I knew of. The longer I live, the less I wonder that God challenges it as his prerogative to try the hearts of the children of men, and directs that this business should be let alone till harvest. I desire to adore the wisdom of God, and his goodness to me and my fellow–creatures that he has not committed this great business into the hands of such a poor, weak, and dimsighted creature; one of so much blindness, pride, partiality, prejudice, and deceitfulness of heart; but has committed it into the hands of one infinitely fitter for it, and has made it his prerogative.&lt;/blockquote&gt;     Those who others regard as "mature, godly and discerning” are often the ones who turn out to be hypocrites.   And those who appear “weak, immature and gullible” are often the ones who grow in grace beyond everyone’s expectations.  Edwards came to learn that “victorious Christian living” really is ultimately all about keeping your eyes on your own work, being faithful in your own service, with the earnest desire that it will please your Lord, to whom you will give an account when He returns.  And that means you shouldn't necessarily care for the "authoritative" praises or condemnations of other insignificant slaves, even if they have dressed themselves up as popes, and they certainly aren’t out to get their master’s job as Lord and Judge.  God help us to be faithful slaves.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115274647372640155?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115274647372640155/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115274647372640155&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115274647372640155'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115274647372640155'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/07/here-comes-judge.html' title='Here Comes the Judge . . .'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115169982353926786</id><published>2006-06-30T14:24:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:28:42.730-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Victory in Jesus?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.livingstonemusic.net/postersfiles/fool.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 222px; height: 381px;" src="http://www.livingstonemusic.net/postersfiles/fool.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/archives/2006/06/30/1542562.html"&gt;Here's a poignant statement about the weakness of sinners who Christ came to save&lt;/a&gt;.  Being a minister myself, it's hard not to read the story discussed there and be deeply disturbed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christian culture encourages us to actively hide our foolishness because we’re the ones that are supposed to have all the answers.  It makes us experts at covering up our own weaknesses so that other Christians will think we’re strong and unbelievers will know that we’re not sinners, like they are.  And that, my friends, is an affront to the cross.  When we do everything possible to convince both ourselves and others that we’re really decent, prudent, mature Christians who’ve basically got it all together, the inevitable result is that we not only not only reject God's Holy Spirit, but we deny our ongoing need as sinners for atonement, forgiveness and mediation.  When our attempts to be thought strong, wise and noble become habitual, and we've successfully convinced ourselves of our maturity, the eventual result is a marginalizing and ostracizing those who are actually openly weak among us.  We create a culture of fear so that openly admitting our weaknesses and foolishness becomes the scariest thing imaginable and appearing impenetrable is a desirable standard of holiness. And maybe our motives are good – we want unbelievers to see that Jesus really has changed us and we want other Christians to know that we really are saved and that we really do know God.  But God is brutally honest about the fruit of wanting to be considered wise, strong and noble by others; and that fruit is precisely the mess we read about in stories like the one linked above.  May He have mercy on us while we struggle to come to terms with the depth of our sin and the lying standards of perfection which so often nullify God's grace in Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115169982353926786?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115169982353926786/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115169982353926786&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115169982353926786'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115169982353926786'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/victory-in-jesus.html' title='Victory in Jesus?'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115052941296894191</id><published>2006-06-17T00:56:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:29:19.835-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Ack!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;UPDATE (6/22): Apparently Brandon Witherow, a Ph.D candidate at Westminster Seminary has been following the accusations of lubricious heresy hunters surrounding Enns' book.  Both &lt;a href="http://digitalbrandon.blogspot.com/2006/06/pete-enns-smackdown-continues.html"&gt;his reactions&lt;/a&gt; to the exchange chronicled below as well &lt;a href="http://digitalbrandon.blogspot.com/2006/04/inspiring-past-time_24.html"&gt;the links&lt;/a&gt; to previous discussions of the book are worth checking out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;UPDATE (6/18):&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Steve has since posted a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2006/06/angry-young-man-syndrome.html"&gt;few new comments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; which both persist in missing my point and ironically label me as "angry" - I'd be happy to respond in more detail to anyone who's interested - just post a comment here; but judging from the level of vitriol gushing from his responses, and an apparent preference for "sniping" rather than talking, responding any further seems pointless.  iMonk has &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-further-adventures-of-an-uncredentialed-blogger#comments"&gt;posted some reactions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; to the venom which, in Steve's zeal, splashed onto him from the response to me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/100/e/8/_Blood_Spatter_Effect_.jpg" border="0" /&gt;That's one of the noises one makes when gurgling in his own blood, which was a metaphorical posture I took while reading Steve Hays &lt;a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2006/06/expiration.html"&gt;eviscerate a few of my last posts&lt;/a&gt;. Steve kindly refers to me as talented, for which I'm genuinely flattered. It gets a bit ugly from there, though, as I'm subsequently referred to as cocky, juvenile and immature (which, of course, I am from time to time). Most of what motivates the (dare I say) overly harsh critique, it seems, were my comments about Don Carson (which, at second glance did come off as far snootier than I had intended). In any case, it clearly pricked a nerve, and I'm sorry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I hadn't intended anything like what Steve fears I meant - namely that Carson is somehow "out of touch". The point I was making, in fact, depends very much on the opposite evaluation. That point, again, is that many students within conservative evangelical circles have been nurtured on the very over-simplifications, glib harmonizations and anachronisms that Enns is addressing. Carson may take much of what Enns says as "obvious" and "unnecessary" and "less than ground-breaking", pointing to nuances that many scholars commonly accept when it comes to issues like ANE parallels and cultural situatedness in Scripture - but this book wasn't written for them. That's why the bibliographies offered by Steve in his vigorous response to my comments are helpful, but completely irrelevant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: right; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.scc.rutgers.edu/njwomenshistory/period_5/images/classroom.jpg" border="0" /&gt;The helpfulness of the book is its honest presentation of the challenges presented by the Old Testament - a presentation that may linger irritatingly for OT scholars to whom the issues are old hat (and to a more educated audience like Steve, who are anxious to rush to their preferred answers to long-known questions). But for new students who are newly coming to grips with these glaringly terrestrial marks of Scripture, it is an exceedingly wise introduction because it takes their context seriously - namely that of the raging Bible wars between liberals and conservatives, marked by a posture of defense in conservative evangelical churches. The "doceticism" described by Enns in relation to the Bible is, in my judgment, a wise strategy for acknowledging the popular emphasis on Scripture's heavenly origin over against marks of its human composition. That - not an attempt to present a comprehensive theological (or hermeneutical) model for understanding Scripture - is the goal of this book. That's also why Carson's desire for a more detailed exposition of the incarnation analogy misses the point. Again, my criticism wasn't that Carson is an idiot - it's the opposite. He's an impressively credentialed biblical scholar. But this book wasn't written to whet his academic appetite, it was written to deal with what can be a crisis for students who have consistently heard only one side of the story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's important to point out that this was really my main criticism of both Carson and Helm. You'll see that at the end of my comments I noted that I felt both of their criticisms, cautions and suggestions weren't inappropriate. Neither my review, nor the book, implies that there haven't been real attempts to solve the kind of universally acknowledged theological and hermeneutical difficulties which Enns discusses, that Enns is somehow dealing with issues no one has ever dealt with before, or that conservatives have somehow "locked away evidence". You'll not find any of those sentiments in my review, and Steve's recitation of well-known books and authors don't refute claims that I never made. Neither did I claim that these men were oblivious to the various debates and difficulties in the OT, or that Enns was particularly ground-breaking in his approach to the difficulties. What I did say, and am still saying, is that Enns is to be commended for knowing his audience - he's not a Tubingen liberal speaking to an academic audience. He's a Reformed, conservative evangelical speaking to conservative evangelical students. He realizes (in a way that I think Carson didn't take into account) that he's not talking to "Arians", but to many who have been gorged to excess on apologetic discourses on the timeless, enduring, and heavenly qualities of the Bible and, when confronted with its cultural moorings, are coming to a point of crisis. Characterizing such a demographic as "angry young men" both illustrates and exacerbates the problem Enns is trying to address.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.stacm.ca/images/sacraments/full/reconciliation.jpg" border="0" /&gt;There's more to say, especially about Steve's suggestions about apostolic exegesis (and perhaps about Enns repeated assertions that demonstrate his unwillingness to admit of "errors"), and perhaps I'll do that later. But I should probably end my explanation with a reminder about the mode of communication being utilized here. Blogs, for me, anyway, are somewhere in between an email and an essay, both in their manner of expression and their content. Like an email they are often informal codifications of a person's thoughts, and aren't meant to be taken with the precision of a serious publication. So while they bear certain marks of an essay, with argumentation, critical reflection and even a certain polemical edge, they shouldn't be taken as final pronouncements as much as an invitation for discussion. More importantly, like email, they're not very good reflections of what a person is really like. Steve seems to take me for an unfortunate blend of talent and egomania. I fear that this appraisal may come from taking me even more seriously than he's convinced I take myself. His apparent distaste for my presence at the Boar's Head Tavern, for instance, seems to assume that its very much like a denominational association of some kind rather than an attempt to meet new people, make new friends, and talk about areas of interest. After feeling thoroughly clobbered by his comments it did me some good to remember the potential for distortion refracted by what bloggers write during a few minutes of distraction from the rest of their busy lives.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115052941296894191?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115052941296894191/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115052941296894191&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115052941296894191'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115052941296894191'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/ack.html' title='Ack!'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115038932527954127</id><published>2006-06-15T10:34:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:29:45.183-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><title type='text'>Who Knew . . .</title><content type='html'>&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="300"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;img src="http://images.quizfarm.com/1118147244BARTH.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;You scored as &lt;b&gt;Karl Barth&lt;/b&gt;. The daddy of 20th Century theology. You perceive liberal theology to be a disaster and so you insist that the revelation of Christ, not human experience, should be the starting point for all theology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="200"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;Karl Barth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="80"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;80%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;John Calvin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="73"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;73%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;Friedrich Schleiermacher&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="67"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;67%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;J?Moltmann&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="67"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;67%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;Anselm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="60"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;60%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;Paul Tillich&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="60"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;60%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;Charles Finney&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="60"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;60%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;Augustine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="53"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;53%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;Jonathan Edwards&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="47"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;47%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;Martin Luther&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table bgcolor="#dddddd" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="40"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;40%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=44116"&gt;Which theologian are you?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;created with &lt;a href="http://quizfarm.com/"&gt;QuizFarm.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115038932527954127?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115038932527954127/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115038932527954127&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115038932527954127'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115038932527954127'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/who-knew.html' title='Who Knew . . .'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-115022094473445245</id><published>2006-06-13T11:49:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:30:15.570-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>"Enns-piration" pt. 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/images/0801027306m.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.wtsbooks.com/images/0801027306m.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Last week I gave a brief plug for Peter Enns’ &lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Inspiration and Incarnation: Evangelicals and the Problem of the Old Testament&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, saying that it provided an essential dimension to the doctrine of inerrancy. His basic thesis is that Biblical revelation comes in the form of enculturated human expression, and that affirming the humanity of Scripture doesn’t negate it’s divine origin – it actually affirms it, because it follows the pattern of Jesus’ own divinity as the incarnate God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enns isn’t the first to suggest the incarnation as a theoretical model in which to understand Scripture, but his articulation of it does put him at odds with certain sectors of his own tradition. The book has drawn some criticism, in part from those who remain puzzled that more people aren’t aware of Gleason Archer’s definitive resolution of these issues years ago. &lt;a href="http://www.opc.org/review.html?review_id=40"&gt;Others&lt;/a&gt; simply dismiss it on the grounds that the Westminster confession never envisioned the proposal. But it’s also drawn criticism from more notable evangelical stalwarts. &lt;a href="http://www2.blogger.com/%E2%80%A2http:/www.reformation21.org/Past_Issues/May_2006/Shelf_Life/Shelf_Life/181/?vobId=2938&amp;pm=434"&gt;In his review&lt;/a&gt;, Paul Helm, Emeritus professor of philosophy at the University of London, called the book a superficial theological and epistemological “failure”. Don Carson, &lt;a href="http://reformation21.org/Past_Issues/May_2006/Shelf_Life/Shelf_Life/181/?vobId=2926&amp;amp;pm=434"&gt;in a tripartite review&lt;/a&gt;, criticized the book for giving more space to fighting the “docetist” (i.e. the over-emphasis on the divine) than to fighting the Arian (i.e. the over-emphasis on the human). In the end he finds Enns to be decidedly “non-pastoral”. Unfortunately (and ironically) the criticisms are more troubling than anything in the book, because they fail to take seriously both the audience and the pastoral problems which Enns is addressing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bju.edu/about/history/images/preaching.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: right; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.bju.edu/about/history/images/preaching.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I’m not sure which churches Don Carson has attended in his lifetime, but from the sound of it they are highly sophisticated, gingerly nuanced and impressively level-headed pulpits. Either this is a pleasantly uncanny experience or an intentionally blind optimism. In either case, with statements like “Most of us glory in the fact that God has disclosed himself to us in space-time history, in real words, to real people, in real languages” and “[ANE parallels] should cause no surprise among those who fully recognize how much the biblical revelation is grounded in history” one wonders if Carson has ever been to an average conservative church meeting in his entire life. One of my Sunday school attendees was shocked and horrified at a remark that Jesus’ teaching sprung from His study of the Law and the Prophets, declaring that He didn’t need to “study” because He was God and His teaching was a “direct revelation from God”! A few families left a neighboring church because of their outrage at the preacher’s suggestion that Paul was in any way affected by his surrounding culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact is that evangelical pulpits typically ram an apologetic agenda through the text of the Old Testament to the degree that the text becomes a side-issue. Maybe I’m in the backwoods of conservative evangelicalism, but I’ve never heard a sermon in Genesis that didn’t comprise your basic “creation vs. evolution” seminar. I’ve never heard about ANE parallels and similarities to ANYTHING in the Law (much less the creation story) coming from the pulpit. Moreover, I’ve never, not once, heard the call to honor the Scripture’s diversity coming from my Sunday School class, and the models for resolving “apparent conflicts” which were held out to me have consistently been the voices of steam-rolling harmonization. What both Carson and Helm seem to miss is that this experience is much more typical than they’d like to admit, and the failure for evangelical scholars to admit it is one of the chief reasons doubt arises in the hearts of young students who have been nourished on the very over-simplifications and polarizations Enns is seeking to correct. In other words, where Carson wants scholarly nuance and fine-tuning in Enns’ characterizations &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;are precisely the points at which most haven’t ever heard such nuance and fine-tuning.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; And that’s the point of this book. Many of those who would reject the tenents of this book would be equally queasy about the Longman book Carson recommends instead. Though Carson’s first criticism is that Enns doesn’t really understand his audience, the shoe appears to be on the other foot – it’s Carson who doesn’t seem to understand the dissatisfaction of disaffected students who are looking for evangelical scholars to recognize the polarized messages they’re actually hearing in their pulpits and classrooms (a longing he labels “the angry young man syndrome”).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lp.edu.ua/lovely_places/inspir.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.lp.edu.ua/lovely_places/inspir.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Likewise Helm, who states in the opening lines of his review: “[Enns] writes about the identity and purpose of the Bible by concentrating on the difficulties of interpreting some Old Testament data. This should immediately arouse our suspicions.” Such a statement will provide little comfort for those who are tired of having theological glaze poured over what seem to be real difficulties in actually interpreting the text (the place where we’re supposed to get our theology) - in other words, the audience of this book. It’s no surprise, therefore, to hear these criticisms coming from two &lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;systematic theologians&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. Both Helm and Carson interpret the book as giving “priority” to the human marks of Scripture (which is really the source of Carson’s complaint that “too little time is given to the doctrine of incarnation”; i.e. too little time spent on the divinity side of the analogy) – but such a criticism demonstrates a studied blindness toward exactly where the pendulum actually is in conservative churches today. In their continued fight against encroaching liberalism conservative evangelicals aren't struggling with Arian tendencies – they’re struggling with docetic ones. Perhaps fighting rabid docetism isn’t best suited to the strategy of giving “equal time” to fighting Arianism. Regardless of such a judgment, though, neither Carson nor Helm ever present what an alternative to Enns’ proposal might actually mean. Surely the CONTENT of what is gained in the process of interpretation is the divine Word of God; and certainly the PROCESS of enscripturation is divinely ordered – but in what sense is the &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;mode of expression&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; “divine”? The authors were “born along by the Spirit”, but what “heavenly” qualities should we expect to find in the actual words of Scripture? For all the protest against Enns’ supposed “interpretive naiveté” in regard to Arianism, beyond giving attention to the cultural, historical, and linguistic temporalities of the text, I’m not sure what else is an interpreter is to do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enns book really seeks to stimulate the imagination as to how the Bible can be a product of human culture and still be the divine Word of God. His answers are meant to be suggestive, not comprehensive, and though Carson states his criticisms as not “to ask Enns to write an entirely different book”, that, in the end, are what his criticisms amount to. Helm’s review falters under a grosser failure, namely the refusal to reckon with the core of Enns’ vision, which will resonate in the minds of many students – namely that the &lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;actual phenomena&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt; of Scripture (not merely Scriptural affirmations of its reliability) should be at the bottom floor in formulating our understanding of how Scripture works. Instead, he simply states that “he starts at the wrong end”. That accusation misses the point not only because starting with the phenomena of Scripture IS HIS PROPOSAL, but also because of the degree to which apologetics has defined the agenda in conservative sectors of OT studies, and have fueled the very excesses the book seeks to curb. Both Carson and Helm glibly bypass the most difficult examples of diversity within the OT canon, Carson by offering his own potential harmonization of the less significant examples and Helm by skipping the actual data altogether (how Helm can accuse him of “fideism” and at the same time recommend “staring from dogma instead of difficulties” is beyond me).  For these reasons, and a few more from which I will spare you, I believe &lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Inspiration and Incarnation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt; stands up under scrutiny; not because the criticisms are devoid of useful critiques, appropriate cautions or valid suggestions, but because Enns' words, like apples of gold in settings of silver, are provocatively delivered in exactly the right circumstances.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-115022094473445245?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/115022094473445245/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=115022094473445245&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115022094473445245'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/115022094473445245'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/enns-piration-pt-2.html' title='&quot;Enns-piration&quot; pt. 2'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114999772494404076</id><published>2006-06-10T21:46:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:30:41.551-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Evy said "No"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/640/DSC01980.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display: block; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/DSC01980.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just shaved recently and upon walking out of the watercloset Evy suddenly began violently gagging and swallowing. I can't imagine why.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://picasa.google.com/blogger/" target="ext"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0px none ; padding: 0px; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" alt="Posted by Picasa" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/pbp.gif" align="middle" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/DSC01983.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114999772494404076?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114999772494404076/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114999772494404076&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114999772494404076'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114999772494404076'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/evy-said-no.html' title='Evy said &quot;No&quot;'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114952509024680492</id><published>2006-06-05T10:24:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:31:03.442-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>"Enns-piration"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/images/0801027306m.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.wtsbooks.com/images/0801027306m.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I recently finished Peter Enns’ brief introduction to the difficulties of an evangelical doctrine of Scripture presented by the Old Testament. The book is called &lt;em&gt;Inspiration and Incarnation&lt;/em&gt;, and as has been &lt;a href="http://johnharmstrong.typepad.com/john_h_armstrong_/2005/09/interpreting_th.html"&gt;pointed&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.denverseminary.edu/dj/articles2005/0100/0108.php"&gt;out&lt;/a&gt; by others, it’s an important read for inerrantists such as myself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enns’ basic thesis is that a doctrine of Scripture should arise from the Scriptures themselves. Well, &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;duh&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. But as you might expect, that recommendation turns out to be much more controversial than it initially sounds, because Enns is concerned not only about conforming our doctrine of Scripture to the Biblical &lt;em&gt;testimony&lt;/em&gt; of its authority but to the &lt;em&gt;phenomena&lt;/em&gt; of Scripture itself – with all its cultural moorings, rich diversity and strange uses of previous texts. These three issues only become problems in need of creative explanation if one develops expectations of Scripture from outside Scripture – which is precisely Enns’ critique of modern notions of inspiration. The result of such modern formulations is that interpretation becomes an exercise in a rather shifty brand of apologetics – ANE parallels are completely ignored in order to make the Bible appear culturally timeless; texts with genuinely different perspectives are forcibly crammed into a homogenized goo in order to make the Bible appear seamlessly harmonized; the hopelessly unscientific method with which Scripture uses Scripture is either dressed up as historical-grammatical exegesis or unconvincingly privileged as a non-repeatable apostolic privilege – all from a desire to rid the Bible from any signs of being a genuinely human (as well as divine) production.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The answer to such distortion, says Enns, is to see the written Word of God functioning according to the same nature as the incarnate Word of God – a perfect symbiosis of humanity and divinity. Jesus perfectly revealed the Father not as a hovering wraith or Docetic illusion, but as a genuine 1st C. Jewish man. He spoke the language, lived and participated within ancient Palestinian culture, and displayed all of the creaturely dependence requisite to humanity. He wasn’t a god just pretending to be a man, as so many seem to believe (and then wonder why they’re not moved by the stories of suffering and crucifixion in the Gospels). He was God anchored in time, culture and finite dependence upon the Father. The written Word of God should be understood as revealing the Father in the same way. As evangelicals continue to thrash about over theories of inspiration, some are drowning and others are barely treading water while the actual content of the Bible – in all of its varied and richly enculturated glory – circles the drain. In the next week or so, as I have time, I’ll be posting an evaluation of some of the criticisms I’ve read (from the likes of such Reformed luminaries as Paul Helm). In the meantime, &lt;em&gt;Inspiration and Incarnation: Evangelicals and the Problem of the Old Testament&lt;/em&gt; is required reading.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114952509024680492?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114952509024680492/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114952509024680492&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114952509024680492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114952509024680492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/enns-piration_05.html' title='&quot;Enns-piration&quot;'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114918209794051811</id><published>2006-06-01T11:09:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:31:29.683-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confessions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Personal'/><title type='text'>The Blue Raja at the BHT</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I'll probably still make the odd post here, too. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 200px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/images/monkdrink.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I know. Shut up.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114918209794051811?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114918209794051811/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114918209794051811&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114918209794051811'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114918209794051811'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/06/blue-raja-at-bht.html' title='The Blue Raja at the BHT'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114319375469388968</id><published>2006-03-24T00:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:31:58.799-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confessions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Personal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>This is Getting Obnoxious . . .</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/images/fork2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/utensil/images/fork2.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I feel like I'm having my 3rd "going out of business" sale this week - but dramatic exits aside, I did want to follow up my exit with a brief explanation. You'll notice that I didn't offer one initially - I should have kn0wn better. My church experiences over the last few years has been a poignant reminder that a vacuum of explanation will always be filled by spurious data - controversy is always more fun than reality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not throwing in the turban because I'm as sensitive as some might believe me to be - I have ample chest hair, and a stunning capacity for dead-lifting heavy objects. All that to say I would hate for you to imagine me slumped over my keyboard, crying like Gidget on a date gone wrong at my poor reception in the blogosphere. I've been warmly welcomed and respectfully recieved by most.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would also hate for anyone to imagine that I'm selling the silverware over various rhetorical scuffles on &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;Pyro&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Maniacs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. I do have to admit, however, that it's not long before my presence in the meta renews old frustrations - but I'm never under the illusion that I'm not asking for it. I know what I'm going to hear before I go over there, and yet I persist, to their puzzlement and sometimes mine. Am I just looking for attention, or do I really think that they'll reverse some of the strongest and dearest convictions they hold in life? Although I can't say that I ever enjoy the often &lt;em&gt;curt&lt;/em&gt;, sometimes &lt;em&gt;dissmissive&lt;/em&gt; and usually &lt;em&gt;immediate&lt;/em&gt; evaluations of my comments (as though they were simply my "answers" waiting to be checked by their "answer key"), my real reasons for showing up aren't spoken often enough - I really do love most of what I read there. I happen to find insatiable delight in the exaltation of God's sovereign majesty. As often as I am frustrated by various disagreements, I am pleasantly surprised by posts which don't fit the caricature of the Reformed Baptist obsession with doctrine for doctrine's sake (such as James' recent post on the &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2006/03/messiah-and-justice.html"&gt;Messiah and Justice&lt;/a&gt; - actually pretty much everything James says, some of Frank Turk's &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2006/03/dilettante-missionaries.html"&gt;stuff&lt;/a&gt; on missions and Phil's interaction with Michael Spencer in the comments to &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2006/03/sendin-some-love-to-imonk.html"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;). Some trusted friends have told me to stay away - but I can't. I agree with so much (let God be my judge!) that I long for genuine interaction on the points with which I don't agree. I'm sure that there are a few patrons of the Pyros who would sneer at that, but I've recieved the strangest (and kindest!) emails from those who foolishly fuel the hope of that possibility (which is hindered every bit as much by me as it is Phil Johnson)!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.poster.net/clarke-bob-carlos/clarke-bob-carlos-two-forks-8400320.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: right; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.poster.net/clarke-bob-carlos/clarke-bob-carlos-two-forks-8400320.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But, that brings me to the real reason for my limey fork-flinging to come to an end - I answered someone who asked if it was the way I was being treated by Phil and Tim Bayly that "broke the camels back" (I feel like throwing in a "as it were" somewhere around here, just for Tim). I answered "yes and no". Hopefully the above can help to fill in the "no" a little. But, now for the "yes": I started blogging because I like to read - not &lt;em&gt;Sweet Valley High&lt;/em&gt;, not &lt;em&gt;The Grapes of Wrath&lt;/em&gt;, not &lt;em&gt;The Prayer of Jabez&lt;/em&gt;, and God help me, not even the better devotional literature - I like to read books which are directly related to the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;personal discovery&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; of Bible study: books on method - theological, hermeneutical, ethical, historical and grammatical. It's my only real hobby. That's not something to brag about, either - I've heard Solomon's warning (Ec. 12:12) and I believe in its wisdom. I'll not bore anyone trying to convince them that it's my love for the treasure I have in Scripture that fuels my desire in this way; and I'll certainly not waste any time trying not to sound pedantic or self-important (too late). Let's just say that "academic respectability" isn't really something I'm all that worried about in a small church where most of my constituents could care less about "variegated nomism".  I'm painfully aware that &lt;strong&gt;1)&lt;/strong&gt; it's not like I've read bags of academic books &lt;strong&gt;2)&lt;/strong&gt; that sort of interest is one very small part of the Christian life &lt;strong&gt;3)&lt;/strong&gt; I've not necessarily understood a single thing I've read - but that's where the blog was supposed to come in. I wanted a forum to log my thoughts and recieve feedback with a view toward processing what happens to strike me in the reading. And all of that, of course, was with a view toward growing in my ability to understand and apply Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet, after about a year on the blogosphere I've discovered something (partially through PyroManiacs, but elsewhere as well): being &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;in process&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is something you're not really allowed to do in public when it comes to theology - at least not in the theo-blogging community. My church family allows me the room to grow in my leadership skills, my preaching, my marriage, my parenting and any number of sanctification issues. Growth in these areas take both time and experience. You can't simulate it by repeating someone else's preaching style, mimicking someone else's relationships, carbon-copying someone else's parenting techniques, etc. But when it comes to theological stimulation on the internet, it seems as though the growth is expected to take place all at once. Very few bloggers allow people to "work through" theological convictions without enormous suspicion. When you are handed a particular set of convictions and told that it is the truth, you may, if you're lucky, be told how such a person arrived at it. But once you attempt to get there yourself, by the power of your own conviction (asking questions and challenging what sounds funny) it's assumed that you are aiding (if not identifying yourself with) the enemies of the truth. It's as though someone were snapping their fingers saying, "Have a perfect marriage - NOW!!!" and then accusing you of rebellion for not complying immediately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.beautiful-antiques.com/images/j0000979%206%20cake%20forks%201.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.beautiful-antiques.com/images/j0000979%206%20cake%20forks%201.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Please hear me right there - I'm not talking about trying to re-invent the foundational truths expressed in the earliest creeds and consensus, or the plainest saving truths about the Gospel - but in trying to evaluate the theological proposals of other Christians according to Scripture, and in trying to reexamine my own theology according to the Scriptures, I'm realizing that what people want to see isn't that you're INTERESTED in the answer, or that you're wrestling with Scripture in COMING to the answer, it's that you HAVE IT ALREADY. The general lack of willingness &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;to let you get there&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, or patiently walk with you in the process makes this whole exercise seem like more of a loss than a win for me, and it felt like time to cut my losses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fear of relativism (which may in fact be one of the most deplorable evils of our time) seems to result in impatient frustration with Christians who question them about their interpretations or theological convictions. More than that, the moment a person stops to ask (in faith!) "have I missed something that the Scriptures teach about justification or the Gospel?" its bemoaned that the postmodernists have won. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;The question itself&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is viewed as a fickle willingness to forsake the Gospel instead of a faithful desire to hear God and not ourselves in Scripture. And that strikes at the core of what it means for me to believe in the Bible's authority - namely that in my study it always maintains the right to say I'm wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact is that I know what I believe - but I want the Scriptures to have the authority to scrutinize my beliefs in practice, not just in theory (as do many of those with whom I disagree). Sadly, I genuinely don't know how to demonstrate that on the blogosphere without alienating those whose theology happens to be the most like mine. It just seems like more grief than it's worth. Anyway, hopefully that helps to explain the departure. Thanks again for your well-wishing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It wasn't very well thought out, it certainly wasn't carefully edited - but it's REALLY the last one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Really.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114319375469388968?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114319375469388968/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114319375469388968&amp;isPopup=true' title='21 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114319375469388968'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114319375469388968'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/03/this-is-getting-obnoxious.html' title='This is Getting Obnoxious . . .'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>21</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114311697840648706</id><published>2006-03-23T05:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:32:20.467-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confessions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Personal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Stick a Fork in Me, I'm Done!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/mystery_men/hank_azaria/mm.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 320px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/mystery_men/hank_azaria/mm.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;If you need me, I'll be pawning your mom's silverware . . .&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114311697840648706?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114311697840648706/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114311697840648706&amp;isPopup=true' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114311697840648706'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114311697840648706'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/03/stick-fork-in-me-im-done.html' title='Stick a Fork in Me, I&apos;m Done!'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114261646430117289</id><published>2006-03-17T10:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:41:28.054-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://users.libero.it/ugo.bais/justone.GIF"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 200px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://users.libero.it/ugo.bais/justone.GIF" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; . . . but I didn't write it. It comes from &lt;a href="http://michaelfbird.blogspot.com/"&gt;Mike Bird&lt;/a&gt;, who has some great stuff to say, as usual. Here's a post he did recently about why he's neither a fundamentalist nor a liberal. Found myself saying 'amen', so I thought I'd re-post it here for your encouragement. If you decide to leave feedback, do &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13840519&amp;amp;postID=114252936112143272"&gt;comment&lt;/a&gt; on his site as well!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;-----------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fundamentalist versus Liberal &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In light of the recent posts by &lt;a href="http://faith-theology.blogspot.com/2006/03/are-there-fundamentals-of-faith.html"&gt;Ben Myers&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.christilling.de/blog/2006/03/fundamentals.html"&gt;Chris Tilling&lt;/a&gt; I thought I'd add my own thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Preliminary Remarks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Most persons who use the term "fundamentalist" pejoratively are simply ignorant of the historical circumstances surrounding the origins of fundamentalism as a theological movement in North America in the early 20th century. Many are also ill informed about the historical, theological and cultural differences between Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism - the two cannot be equated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. The terms "fundamentalist" and "liberal" are often used these days as an opprobrium but they have also become relative terms, i.e. a fundamentalist is someone more conservative than me and a liberal is someone less conservative than me. (I've been called both!) To make things worse, Old Liberalism was a package and you could easily discover an Old Liberal based on certain questions, e.g. virgin birth, inerrancy, resurrection, atonement, etc. But today there are a number of theologians who don't quite fit the bill, e.g. Rowan Williams. William's has an orthodox view of the resurrection (as far as I can tell), but his views of sexuality are as liberal as Hillary Clinton speaking at an ACLU convention. In sum, other than being an insult, the terms fundamentalist and liberal don't really mean much anymore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. The Fundamentalis vesus Liberal controversy was really a symptom of Christianity wrestling with the challenges posed by modernity. There were two reactions to modernity: "run for the hills and hide your daughters" (Fundamentalists) or "wine me and dine me" (Liberals). As we enter into a Postmodern period the liberal versus fundametnalist controversy is no longer the defining issue for Western Christianity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See further:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Carl F. Henry, &lt;em&gt;The Uneasy Conscience of Modern Fundamentalism&lt;/em&gt; (1947)&lt;br /&gt;- George Marsden, &lt;em&gt;Fundamentalism and American Culture&lt;/em&gt; (1980)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Why I'm not a Fundamentalist&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Fundamentalists major on the minors, and make minor issues tests for faith and orthodoxy (e.g. alchol, Bible translations, etc).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Fundamentalists fail to distinguish between what is Christian and what is the cultural Christianity that they were nurtured on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Fundamentalists fail to distinguishy between areas of conviction and areas of command, and treat areas of conscience as a test of orthodoxy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Fundamentalists have a view of Scripture that is docetic in that Scripture is divine but it is not human - no human processes (e.g. the Synoptic problem) are compatible with divine authorship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Fundamentalists preach the authority of the text but practice the authority of the community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. Fundamentalists fails to appreciate the different genres of the Bible or comprehend the role of presuppositions in influencing our reading of Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. Fundamentalists believe in theological cloning rather than theological learning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. Fundamentalists fail to be the salt of the earth as they are concerned almost exclusively with the minutia of doctrinal purity and correctness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. Fundamentalists have a lopsided soteriology as they think of salvation as purely the salvation of souls for heaven rather than the liberation of persons from sin, sickness, subjugation, and death. They aim for decisions rather than making disciples.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10. Fundamentalists fail to recognize the true marks of the Church and allow for a diversity of voices within the body of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;11. Fundamentalists are more excited about what they are against, than what they are for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12. Fundamentalists regard the Spirit as a theological entity, but not as a presence that manifests itself in worship or loving community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Why I'm Not a Liberal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Liberals mimic culture to the point that they simply imitate the contemporary values of the day and wrap them up in some Christian wrapping paper. The world looks on and says, "Thanks for affirming all of my values but you can keep the wrapping paper".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Liberals minor on the majors - sin, atonement, and resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Liberals have a view of Scripture that is Arrian - it is human but not divine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Liberals take Scripture to be illustrative but not necessarily prescriptive and normative for faith and praxis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Liberals deny the transforming power of the gospel to liberate persons from every form of sin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. Liberals minimize the unique revelation of God in Christ and deny the eschatological finality of Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. The Gospel of Liberalism was what Karl Rahner warned us of: A God without wrath takes men without sin to a kingdom without judgment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. Liberals de-historize and de-apocalypticize the message of the Prophets, Jesus and the Apostles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. Liberals preach pluralism but do not tolerate anyone who fails to embrace their pluralistic ethos.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10. Liberals believe the Spirit is a Spirit of unity but not a Spirit of truth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;11. Liberals think that the only heresy is to believe in heresy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12. Liberals think that the church is about programs and structures, when it is about creating gospel-proclaiming, Spirit-drive, Christ-centred, God-focused redemptive communities.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114261646430117289?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114261646430117289/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114261646430117289&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114261646430117289'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114261646430117289'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/03/blog-post.html' title=''/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114240595548404144</id><published>2006-03-14T22:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-03-16T05:35:48.503-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confessions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Personal'/><title type='text'>Macular Degeneration</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.littleclockshop.com/images/products/will_return_clock.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.littleclockshop.com/images/products/will_return_clock.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I hate to admit it, but I'm petering out. I'm staring at a screen for sermon prep and Bible Study creation all week long, and the thought of going home to blog makes my eyes want to vomit. By the end of the week they feel like Gandalf's description of the eye of Sauron - "wreathed in flame and lidless". Good luck getting Visine to work on that. But more than that, there's so much to comment upon and so little time to attend to it that I've finally decided to give blogging a break for a bit, at least until I've hit a stride with some of my other responsibilities. I know I'll be back soon, though, if for no other reason than that my brief absence from the blogosphere has already saddled my conscience with an unbearable pressure to sit down and spray text about a million different topics - &lt;a href="http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2006/03/more-on-secularism-on-sbl-forum.html"&gt;James Crossley's post about secularism&lt;/a&gt; in Biblical Studies, &lt;a href="http://www.adrian.warnock.info/2006/03/power-struggles-in-blogosphere-and.htm"&gt;Adrian Warnock's comments on the interchange between iMonk and Phil Johnson&lt;/a&gt; (and iMonk's &lt;a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-titanic-struggle-explained"&gt;fantastic follow up post&lt;/a&gt;), &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2006/03/fundamentalism-ecm-authentic.html#114230792199193473"&gt;common confusion about propositions&lt;/a&gt;, modernism and the Enlightenment (scroll down to the end of the page), my brother's acceptance into Princeton, &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com"&gt;Michael Bird's&lt;/a&gt; excellent upcoming article in Tyndale Bulletin, evaluations of some competing proposals for the ecumenical task, &lt;a href="http://blog.logos.com/archives/2006/02/greek_syntax_whats_in_a_name.html"&gt;exciting developments in Bible Software&lt;/a&gt; and of course, brief blurts about the books I'm currently reading (especially Francis Watson's &lt;em&gt;Paul and the Hermeneutics of Faith&lt;/em&gt; and Alasdair Macintyre's &lt;em&gt;After Virtue&lt;/em&gt;). I'm sometimes seized with a kind of catatonic schizophrenia in the middle of a conversation while thinking about something I'd like to write, but I never seem to find the time to successfully log them in at &lt;em&gt;Soylent Green&lt;/em&gt;; I'm tired of saved half-drafts that I just delete in frustration at not having enough time to finish them. &lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/DSC00961.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/DSC00961.0.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But the catharsis will have to wait until at least mid-April when the house we're building is completed and I've moved out of my gracious mother-in-law's home. In the meantime, I hope you'll not forget about me!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now, for a moment of complete non-sequitur - I've tried to find a reason to post pictures of my family for some time now, but wasn't able to generate one that didn't sound like an entry from my diary. So, for absolutely no reason at all, here they are: My wife and I, my daughter Madelyne, my son Sameer and my youngest, Raj.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/DSC00909.0.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/DSC00822.0.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/DSC00822.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/DSC00824.0.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/DSC00840.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114240595548404144?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114240595548404144/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114240595548404144&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114240595548404144'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114240595548404144'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/03/macular-degeneration.html' title='Macular Degeneration'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114134093971201931</id><published>2006-03-02T15:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:43:40.998-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><title type='text'>The Faithful Forgiveness of God</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.cedarville.edu/photos/tgombis.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 180px;" alt="" src="http://www.cedarville.edu/photos/tgombis.jpg" border="0" height="243" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The pixelated beauty to my immediate left is a chap named Timothy Gombis, who currently teaches Bible at Cedarville University in Ohio. Though I know that a few other blogs (not least &lt;a href="http://metalepsis.blogspot.com/"&gt;Metalepsis&lt;/a&gt;) have already posted the following meditation on their own sites, I thought it was worth reproducing here as well.  Tim's a good friend and a great guy who could easily bench press a car of your choosing with both of our mothers sitting in it.  Keep that in mind if you have any comments.&lt;br /&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Our texts for this week reveal to us the logic of God's forgiveness. They also reveal to us our own ways with forgiveness and perhaps why we have such a hard time coming to grips with God's outrageous grace. These texts serve as a pleasant and stunning surprise, a blessed rebuke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We foolishly think that we have God all figured out, don't we? We think that we know how He deals with sinners, what He's like, how He thinks. What is God like? Well, He's mostly like us, except totally huge, and He knows everything. And He told us what is right and wrong, so if we choose to do wrong, He'll be rightly outraged at us - because He told us not to do it, and we should've known better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, thankfully, He has made a way for us to be forgiven, and if we're willing to clean up our act, make things right, He's willing to consider taking us back. But He'll keep His eye on us, and if we blow it again..., well, we might want to read the fine print in our contract.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We may not lay out our understanding of God so explicitly, but we often feel that this is what God is like, right? He's very huge and powerful, and his heart isn't as small as that of the Grinch who stole Christmas - whose heart was two sizes too small - but surely it's not THAT big - after all, there's gotta be some limit to forgiveness and grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In thinking about God in this way, we have managed to become complete idolaters; we have made God in our own image. What is He like? What's His forgiveness like? Probably like ours.&lt;br /&gt;Scripture, however, turns this idolatry on its head, giving us a true glimpse into the ways of God with His people. We will discover what these texts tell us about the forgiveness of God by asking and answering three questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, why does God forgive sins? Because this is who He is! It is His identity, according to the final verse in our Isaiah passage: "I, I am He who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins." It is who God is, it is what He does - it's His calling card; He forgives sins!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And He loves to forgive! Our Isaiah text depicts God going to great lengths to overcome our sin and to arrange situations in such a way so that we might more effectively enjoy His love. In fact, what makes God angry in the Isaiah passage, is that Israel refused to give God opportunities to forgive. "Yet you did not call upon me, O Jacob; but you have been weary of me, O Israel!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So God forgives because it is his very nature to do so - and he DELIGHTS to forgive sinners.&lt;br /&gt;These texts force us to ask a second question: Is this really so? How can we be sure about this? Does he really love to forgive, or does He do it dragging His feet? When God forgives sins, does he do it while rolling his eyes?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we want to know, because this is how WE forgive, isn't it? "Well, I know I'm supposed to forgive you, so I guess I do. But I don't have to like it!! And I don't have to like you!! I'm still angry for what you've done to me, so you need to spend a few more days in the doghouse until you get completely back in my favor."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we think that by holding on to bitterness against those who have wronged us we're only showing proper righteous anger at sin. "It's a godly anger at sin, alright?!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, in the somewhat mystifying words of the 2 Corinthians text, our forgiveness is "yes and no." We do, but we don't... We forgive..., but we'll just see how things go.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But God is completely unlike us - He is faithful and His word is NOT "yes and no," but YES!!&lt;br /&gt;How do we know it's "yes" and not "yes and no?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Look at Jesus!! Listen to how outrageous this is - God Himself came into the world, fully participated in the broken human condition, and died. And God raised Jesus from the dead to confirm His promises - to show that he is SERIOUS about forgiveness, SERIOUS about redemption and restoration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is fully committed to us - He is not of two minds!! He is not mostly committed to us, but we'll see how things go.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus is the YES of God to us. There is no indecision with God toward his people.&lt;br /&gt;"In Jesus it is always 'Yes.' For in him every one of God's promises is a 'yes.' For this reason it is through Jesus that we say the 'Amen', to the glory of God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this is gospel - this is good news, because we know ourselves. We know our sinful hearts, and it is so easy to believe the lie that it's a long road back to God's good graces. It's hard work getting back into his favor. But this is only true if God is like us - thanks be to God that He is not.&lt;br /&gt;The third question that these texts raise and answer is; What must be done to obtain forgiveness?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is answered in several ways in these Scripture passages, but I love how the Gospel reading answers it - especially when we think about how we usually read these gospel texts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We typically read this scene where Jesus heals the man lowered through the roof in such an unreal manner. The guys run their friend up to the roof on a stretcher, remove a skylight, install a system of pulleys to the roof and smoothly lower him down - and, of course, he's reclining comfortably - and plop him nicely down in front of Jesus who then conducts this interchange with him and the scribes, to the quiet approval of all those watching, who close the scene with the polite applause of spectators at a golf tournament.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is, of course, pure fantasy. Think about this scene. It's from Mark, a very gritty Gospel - full of action and pulsing with tension. These men hear that Jesus is at home, so they grab their friend and carry him down narrow streets, bumping his head on stone walls as they twist and turn down the alleyways, and arrive at Jesus' house. They're probably all disheveled and their lame friend is very uncomfortable and very likely in great pain, at this point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Ugh! The house is crowded, what're we going to do?! Let's go through the roof!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"What?! Are you crazy?!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So they drag him up to the roof, tear apart the roof, with stuff falling down all over the people inside, who are probably not at all happy that these strangers are doing a demo-job on Jesus' house - and while Jesus is teaching!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But so what?! We gotta get to Jesus! They lower him down...how?! With what!? We don't know - rope? His clothes? Again, this guy can't be all that comfortable at this point. But, as it happens, there he is, lying on the floor, on his mat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then what happens...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus, taking note of their faith, says to the man, "your sins are forgiven."&lt;br /&gt;This story is so familiar to us, we have completely missed how bizarre this is!! Think of all the commotion and the dust and dirt, stuff from the roof falling all over the people down below, people shooting dirty looks up at the guys who just lowered some street person down onto Jesus' IKEA coffee table..., it's crazy!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is so much going on here, but we must take note of two things:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, the phrase "when Jesus saw their faith." How often have we read this as, "when Jesus saw their qualifications?" Why did Jesus heal the man, we ask? Because of their great faith - Jesus looked into their hearts and saw that they had great faith!! So we too must have great faith!&lt;br /&gt;NO!! What displayed their faith? Simply this - that they knew they needed something, and that Jesus could help them. That's it. "We're in need, Jesus is near, let's go."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just like Psalm 32, v. 6: "I confessed my sin, and you forgave the guilt of my sin." That's it - recognition of our sin, forgiveness granted by God. There's no middle step of elaborate performance or credential-checking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second thing to note is Jesus' response to witnessing this bizarre instance of breaking and entering that unfolds before him: The dust starts to settle, the people all look at Jesus, He looks at the men, and says to the man, "Son, your sins are forgiven."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No discussion, no questions, no checking of credentials, no theological sparring. No fancy introductory speech, just a total outcast lowered into Jesus' living room, staring dumbfounded at Jesus while he has his sins forgiven by the King of creation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The lesson here is this: God's hair-trigger response is set to forgive. Call on the Lord, and He will forgive. Intrude on Jesus' personal space, make yourself a nuisance to Jesus, and he'll forgive your sins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On what basis does God forgive? Recognize your need and call on him and he'll forgive. End of discussion.&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4109/1367/1600/Lent%20Tree.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God delights to forgive, is angry that his people won't give him opportunities to forgive! God loves to show mercy, so "be glad you righteous, and rejoice in the Lord."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114134093971201931?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114134093971201931/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114134093971201931&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114134093971201931'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114134093971201931'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/03/faithful-forgiveness-of-god.html' title='The Faithful Forgiveness of God'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113980762212249549</id><published>2006-03-01T16:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:44:28.244-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerg/ing/ent'/><title type='text'>Reformed Epistemology and Narrative Theology</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SINCE THIS ARTICLE GOT SUCH LITTLE FEEDBACK (being sandwiched between two more "controversial" posts on the Master's Seminary's take on Emergent), I THOUGHT I'D MOVE IT UP HERE AND HOPE IT GETS SOME MORE ATTENTION!&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://seminary.bethel.edu/stpaul/faculty/images/clark.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 232px; height: 283px;" alt="" src="http://seminary.bethel.edu/stpaul/faculty/images/clark.JPG" border="0" height="333" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;It's been my suspicion as of late that much of what narrative theology has to offer by way of answering the problems of Enlightenment modernism comport well with the presuppositional style of Reformed apologetics. While browsing through my &lt;a href="http://www.galaxie.com/store/product.asp?ProductID=74"&gt;Theological Journal Disc&lt;/a&gt; I came across an intriguing article by &lt;a href="http://seminary.bethel.edu/stpaul/faculty/clark_d.html"&gt;David Kelly Clark&lt;/a&gt; called "Narrative Theology and Apologetics" (&lt;em&gt;Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society&lt;/em&gt;, no. 36 (1993): 4). I remember enjoying reading Clark in my apologetics and evangelism class while in seminary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this article Clark, a presuppositionalist apologist and Reformed philosopher of religion, described both the promise and the pitfalls of narrative theology. He draws upon the interchange between Hans Frei and Carl F. H. Henry, giving an even-handed appraisal of the benefits of both approaches. After giving considerable time to pointing out the potential problems with narrative approaches (1. the unclear nature of what that might mean, 2. the detachment of narrative approaches from history 3. conceputal realtivism, "too much Wittgenstein") he goes on to say: "Despite all this, narrative theology does have some things right. Evangelical apologists would do well to develop their thought and strategy in light of these themes . . .":&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;1)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Narrative theology focuses on concrete modes of understnading and communication&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - traditional apologetics are too abstractly philosophical&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;2) It encourages us to learn how to work in relativistic and pluralistic milleus&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - narrative can translate biblical truth into postmodern models of rationality without giving in to relativism&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;3) It highlights how difficult and complex apologetics really is&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - modernistic apologetics often prove futile in postmodern contexts&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;4) It promotes a flexible apologetic strategy, one that responds to particular needs in specific situations&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - Clark says, "The validity of a multiple-perspectives approach at a limited level (though not at the comprehensive level of worldviews) offers the apologist some flexibility in argument even though the goal, an experience with Jesus Christ, remains constant."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;5) It allows for more varied sorts of evidence, including religious experiences&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - shedding straitjackets of foundationalist (evidentialist) critiera for knowledge means introducing the reality of religious experience can count as evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6) It alerts us to the uniqueness of Christian thinking&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; - narrative approaches refuse to imbibe secular standards for rationality&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;7) It reminds us that apologists often assume much cultural baggage&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - Clark says, "at our point in history this baggage includes Enlightenment foundationalism . . . if general culture shifts to postmodernism, however, those we meet may hold cultural presuppositions of which we are utterly unaware."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;8) It suggests possibilities for significant cross-cultural apologetics&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - Again, Clark: "Let us build Christian defense not on traditions that are dying even in the west but on culturally appropriate understandings and strategies."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After concluding that "several significant movements are writing prapgraphs in the Enlightenment's obituary. In philosophy, Reformed epistemologists are decisively demonstrating the self-referential incoherence of classical foundationalism", Clark goes on to say "evangelical apologetics must adapt to a postmodern context. This does not mean jumping on bandwagons or chasing fads. It does mean concieving of apologetics so it functions in the conteporary mileu."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it possible to take what's good from narrative approaches while refusing to pitch notions of historicity (i.e., "it doesn't matter if Christ 'really' rose from the dead, it's entering the narrative world that counts) or cave to relativistic tendencies (i.e. "different stories have different criteria for rationality within those narrative worlds")? I hope so! While narrative theology isn't a panacea, it has exerted many positive effects on Biblical studies which shouldn't be neglected, least of all in its response to radical Biblical criticism. Conservative approaches by &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0664223273/qid=1139812469/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-4662644-5953658?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;amp;n=283155"&gt;Kevin Vanhoozer&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801027217/qid=1139812518/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/002-4662644-5953658?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;amp;n=283155"&gt;Joel Green&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006063796X/qid=1139812891/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/002-4662644-5953658?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;amp;n=283155"&gt;Richard Hays&lt;/a&gt; and others have attempted to develop these insights without falling into the ditch of postmodernist skepticism. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113980762212249549?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113980762212249549/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113980762212249549&amp;isPopup=true' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113980762212249549'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113980762212249549'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/03/reformed-epistemology-and-narrative.html' title='Reformed Epistemology and Narrative Theology'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114072371482115173</id><published>2006-02-23T12:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:45:30.639-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quotes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><title type='text'>Jesus Is Lord</title><content type='html'>I was recently incited to worship by a &lt;a href="http://www.pcusa.org/theologyandworship/christology/jesusislord.htm"&gt;paper&lt;/a&gt; given by Marianne Meye Thompson.  It was about the Lordship of Jesus, which is something I've been thinking about lately, and since I'm terribly busy this week I thought I'd reproduce part of it here for your reading enjoyment, hoping it will have the same effect on you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;By the way, in reading the following don't get &lt;strong&gt;too nonplussed&lt;/strong&gt; by her comments about meeting those of "other religions" with kindness and acceptance. Remember she says "as much as one can", and realize that the rest of her article makes it pretty clear that she believes salvation can be found nowhere else but in Christ alone. The balance of honoring what's true and correcting all that errs in the worldview of others follows Paul's own pattern in addressing the Gentiles (Acts 17:22-34). &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 200px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://www.taroscopes.com/miscimages/jesus-king.sm.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Our context is no more pluralistic than was the context of Paul or of any of the apostles who lived, worked, and taught in the Roman empire of the first century of this era. Although people are fond of saying so, we do not live in unprecedented times. The world of the early church knew of the claims that there were indeed “many lords and many gods.” There were claims for the gods of nationalism and power, such as the Ceasars and Rome; for the various gods of foreign and mystery cults, such as Isis and Osiris; local and civic deities, such as Athena, Artemis, and Apollo; the gods of chance and fate, such as fortune, fate, and luck; and the generic life force of the universe. Precisely in the context of such claims, Paul affirmed that there is “one God, the Father, and one Lord, Jesus Christ.” Our world, too, knows of “many lords and many gods” – and many of them take the same form as they did in Paul’s own day – nationalism, foreign deities, fate and fortune, and the pantheistic belief that all is God. In the ancient world, Christianity provided an alternative to the shapeless confusion of antiquity; in the modern world, it can provide the same alternative, but only if it articulates the gospel clearly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In such a world, it is urgent that the Church have the courage to speak its belief in the one Lord, for this is the content of the Gospel. In making this proclamation, it must be clear that it does not seek to add another deity to the pluralistic mix, but that it intends to bear witness to the Lord who is “above every name,” for he is the one whom God has “set above all rule and authority, all power and dominion.” In other words, the foundation of the church’s confession and proclamation who Jesus is, through God’s mercy and grace, for all the world and also for us. The confession that Jesus is “my personal Lord” is not the same as the confession “he is Lord.” And unless we truly believe that he is Lord, we ought not to make the confession he is “my Lord,” because to do so is tantamount to idolatry, honoring one lord among many lords.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;As one author put it, “To assert today that the one Creator God has revealed himself fully and finally in Jesus Christ is to risk criticism on the grounds of arrogance or intolerance. The mission of the church, however, does not commit Christians to the proposition that there is no truth to be found in other religions. All philosophies or religions which have some ‘fit’ with the created world will thereby reflect in some ways the truth of God. [This] does not, however, imply that they are therefore, as they stand, doorways into the new creation. That place … is Christ’s alone” (N. T. Wright, Colossians and Philemon [Leicester: Inter-Varsity; Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1986], p 79).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;If the church compromises its witness to the Lordship of Christ, then it has ceased to be the church of Jesus Christ. But in proclaiming and living this news as good news, we must be certain that our mode of confession matches the trajectory of the self-giving and self-emptying of the crucified one who loved us and gave himself for us. So question 52 of the Study Catechism asks, “How should I treat non-Christians and people of other religions?” Answer: As much as I can, I should meet friendship with friendship, hostility with kindness, generosity with gratitude, persecution with forbearance, truth with agreement, and error with truth. I should express my faith with humility and devotion as the occasion requires, whether silently or openly, boldly or meekly, by word or by deed. I should avoid compromising the truth on the one hand and being narrow-minded on the other. In short, I should always welcome and accept these others in a way that honors and reflects the Lord’s welcome and acceptance of me.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;If this is what the catechism asks of us in relationship to people of other religions, how much more should we deal with friendship, kindness, generosity, and forbearance with our sisters and brothers in Christ. In other words, the virtue we must seek to cultivate is not the American virtue of tolerance, but the biblical virtue of humility. Humility is not the same as tolerance, for humility recognizes that a word of judgment may always be addressed to us, and that there are logs in our own eyes which we need to remove. Humility is the stance that we, as those who are united in baptism to the death and resurrection of our Lord, must seek. We have a long ways to go before we show the kind of compassionate and courageous love which Jesus demonstrated to the tax collectors and sinners as he welcomed them to his table. We forget the scandalous character of his act, as we forget the shameful character of his death on the cross, which he endured for us while we were yet sinners . There will be a profound irony and, indeed, shame if those of us who insist most vociferously that “Jesus is Lord” are also known to be characterized by a lack of humility and love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But as the catechism states we must also “meet error with truth.” There is no formula — nor has there ever been — a formula for how one measures and mixes truth and forbearance. Paul’s unflagging commitment and unfailing compassion can remind us that we can never compromise on our zeal for truth —or for forbearance. This is neither an easy road to walk nor an easy witness to bear. But let us also be reminded that where the church fails to hold fast to its commitment to Christ as Lord, and therefore to hold and speak this truth in the humility of Christ himself, the loss is not only ours, or the church’s, but also the world’s.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114072371482115173?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114072371482115173/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114072371482115173&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114072371482115173'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114072371482115173'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/02/jesus-is-lord.html' title='Jesus Is Lord'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-114021764947942390</id><published>2006-02-17T14:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-25T16:15:24.713-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quotes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerg/ing/ent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>What Do They Mean By "Story"?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/storybook-treasury-of-dick-and-jane.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left;" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/200/storybook-treasury-of-dick-and-jane.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;One of the many confusions amidst Old Princeton-style pastors and theologians concerning postconservative and postliberal models is in regard to the word "story" or "narrative". Common misconstruals of contemporary use of these terms include seeing them as genre categories, or as a subjective "feelings-oriented" approach to life and the text of Scripture. Another tendency is to see the invocation of "narrative" as fundamentally opposed to historical fact; thus Hans Frei has been labelled a "liberal" because of his seemingly ambivalent disposition toward whether the events in Scripture "actually happened". The same sorts of accusations have been levelled at Barth in a previous generation. With these words in greater currency among theologians, along with the more opaque "metanarrative", which is used to talk about everything from very important stories to "worldview" in general, it might be helpful to settle on some working definitions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, references to "story" are emphatically NOT the arbitrary exaltation of one type of Biblical literature over another, such as propositional or poetic genres. While attention is typically drawn to the overwhelming percentage of the Bible that is actually in narrative form, this point should be seen as supporting a larger claim about the fundamental nature of reality itself. Instead of seeing our world through the a canon of abstract universal laws, detached from any particularity, these theologians are claiming that the make-up of our rationality is itself a "storied" one. Our attempt to make sense out of data is to fit it into our understanding of our individual stories as well as our broader story of the world. Every individual sees the world as inhabited by key characters interacting in such a way as to drive forward a plot. Our understanding of the world has a beginning, it carries on according to the plot with various themes weaving in and out of it as challenges are overcome toward some desired final conclusion. Nothing, it is said, is exempt from this sort of thinking, no matter how empirically detached it may appear. Scientists carry on according to their own "grand metaphysical stories" by which they can make sense out of notions like "progress". Because the structure of our minds is story-like, our observations of the world are always "storied" observations - and in that sense there is no "way it is" apart from the way these events are &lt;strong&gt;interpreted by&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;fit into&lt;/strong&gt; our understanding of "the story".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 200px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://uncommonmisconception.typepad.com/home/puzzle_piece.jpg" border="0" /&gt;These claims impact biblical intepretation and theologizing because they reverse the priority of explanation in doing theology: instead of appealing to abstract "attributes of God", soteriological concepts, etc. and then using individual accounts in Scripture as illustrations of these definitions, narrative theology commends particular stories about God as our primary definitions &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;with the propositional content being the commentary&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Our doctrine of redemption isn't an abstract category in which "God's purchasing sinners by the death and resurrection of Christ" is one instance - &lt;em&gt;we only know what redemption is &lt;strong&gt;because of&lt;/strong&gt; Christ's death and resurrection&lt;/em&gt;! God isn't omnipotent with specific instances of God acting powerfully in the Bible - those instances define what we mean by omnipotent (a definition which includes powerfully conquering sin through weakness on the cross). In this way postmodernism's critique of "Enlightenment rationalism", which claims to operate without cultural factors and biased accounts of the world (like stories), happens to share presuppositionalist critiques against evidentialism and Christianity's critiques of secular science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.fullerseminarybookstore.com/file/prod/en/dnspenner.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 153px; height: 228px;" src="http://www.fullerseminarybookstore.com/file/prod/en/dnspenner.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But isn't this idea antithetical to postmodernism? Isn't Christianity a "metanarrative"? Lyotard's famous definition of postmondernism, namely "an incredulity toward metanarratives", isn't the denial of this - that there are these larger stories in which people see the world - it is, at least according to Merold Westphal, rather the rejection of "totalizing" accounts which say that their view of the world is &lt;em&gt;outside&lt;/em&gt; the mediation of a narrative. It is, as it has elsewhere been called, "the view from nowhere". Thus whilie many theologians continue to use the word in reference to a "worldview", making Lyotard's conception of postmodernism the utter denial of "grand stories" of the world (like Christianity), it might actually be rather the opposite; namely a denial of scientific rationalism that can open a space for Christianity as a "worldview".  Christians don't take the Gospel writers to be recording what happened in a detached way - they're writing theologically, describing the events of Jesus' life as part of a larger narrative of God's work in the world. They weren't simply robotic biographers, noting details for the sake of accuracy - they were heralds of the Son of God, proclaiming His arrival, death and resurrection in order to defeat sin and death. Moreover, any attempt to get "behind" the text to reconstruct what &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; happened (something conservatives do through excessive harmonization and liberals do through radical biblical criticism) isn't a way of achieving "what really happened"; it's simply another ideologically motivated account which competes with the Gospels ideologically motivated account. All history-telling is revisionist. One either chooses to believe the account given by the Gospels as a product of divine inspiration, or one chooses to weave one's own equally ideological account.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So how does story relate to historicity? Isn't concieving as Christianity, and the Gospels in particular, as "story" tantamount to denying that anything actually happened in time and space? In Hans Frei's 1987 exchange with Carl F. H. Henry, the issue of historicity obviously became a central part of Henry's critique. Consider Frei's response, which I'll quote at length:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Of course I believe in the “historical reality” of Christ’s death and resurrection, if those are the categories which we employ. But they weren’t always the categories employed by the church. There was a time when the church didn’t talk about “the Jesus of history” and “the Christ of faith.” There was a time when we didn’t talk, as many people have talked for nearly two hundred years now, about Jesus Christ being “a particular historical event.” And it may well be that even scholars won’t be using those particular terms so casually and in so self-evident a fashion for much longer. In other words, while I believe that those terms may be apt, I do not believe, as Dr. Henry apparently does, that they are as theory-free, as neutral as he seems to think they are. I do not think that the concept”fact” is theory-neutral. I do not think that the concept “probability” is theory-neutral. I do not think that we will talk theologically in those terms, perhaps, in another two generations. We didn’t talk that way 300 years ago. One talked in that day and time much more nearly about one person in two natures, undivided, but also unconfused. And that was just as adequate and just as inadequate a way of talking. If I am asked to use the language of factuality, then I would say, yes, in those terms, I have to speak of an empty tomb. In those terms I have to speak of the literal resurrection. But I think those terms are not privileged, theory-neutral, trans-cultural, an ingredient in the structure of the human mind and of reality always and everywhere for me, as I think they are for Dr. Henry.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.louisianapresbyterians.org/vantil.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.louisianapresbyterians.org/vantil.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Frei was pointing out that the language of "factuality", divorced from distinctly Christian ways of talking, is to import an ideology - namely that of the Enlightenment rationalism which dominates biblical criticism - into the discussion to the neglect of the biblical text. Apologetics and criticism concerning the "historicity" of the Gospels took the authoritative focus from the Gospels and placed it upon the historians' own reconstruction, whether conservative or liberal. And that, thought Frei, was the chasm between the text and the reader which one ought not to fall into.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again, in reading Frei I hope you can hear the faint but shrill voices of Van Til and Schaeffer crying out against the evangelical acceptance of the "brute fact" and the "theory-neutrual", "common ground" interpretations which we claim to reject in our apologetics. I also hope you can discern the difference between this boldly Christian approach and the subjective existentialism with which it's often wrongly associated (as recently as in a popular lecture series I've just heard). These, and not some other touchy-feely motives, or parroting of "Phil Donahue" (talk about a generational insult!) are what drive many "emerging Christians" to speak so passionately about the importance of "story" and how Christians fit into it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are, of course, some difficulties with seeing the theological task this way (as there are with the "Old Princeton" hyper-propositionalism), but I'll leave those for the comments (and the mostly ignored previous post about David Kelly Clark and narrative theology)!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-114021764947942390?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/114021764947942390/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=114021764947942390&amp;isPopup=true' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114021764947942390'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/114021764947942390'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/02/what-do-they-mean-by-story.html' title='What Do They Mean By &quot;Story&quot;?'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113986375893683784</id><published>2006-02-13T12:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:48:43.550-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerg/ing/ent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>My Last Post on TMS and Emergent</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.nyu.edu/classes/siva/archives/public%20enemy%20logo.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.nyu.edu/classes/siva/archives/public%20enemy%20logo.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I'm not a self-proclaimed superhero fighting for accuracy and fairness in scholarship. I'm a self-proclaimed superhero who flings forks and speaks with a fake Brittish accent. But lest anyone think that my previous concerns about the latest faculty lecture series was motivated out of either&lt;strong&gt; a)&lt;/strong&gt; a secret longing to be emergent &lt;strong&gt;b)&lt;/strong&gt; a secret longing to be liked by "the emerging" &lt;strong&gt;c)&lt;/strong&gt; a secret longing to give my children in marriage to emerging Christians or &lt;strong&gt;d)&lt;/strong&gt; a self-righteous desire to be viewed as academically acceptable and "with it" or &lt;strong&gt;e)&lt;/strong&gt; some other self-righteous desire to correct those who annoy me, allow me to clearly state my incredibly self-interested reason for being so irritated by the misrepresentation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These lectures get used to weed out and destroy not just ministries who believe the views being condemned, but those who don't get in line and fire off the same strong rhetoric. That's not a theory. It's happened to us, and it's happened to several other graduates I know. The problem isn't that I've lost my respect for MacArthur and written him off - it's the opposite. I continue to refer to him in a praiseworthy way so that when he says that some label ("the New Perspective" or "Emergent" or whatever) represents the next thing rolling off the anti-Christ assembly line, those who love him (rightly) take anything less than his wholesale rejection as partnering with the Devil and possibly golfing with him on Wednesday afternoons. Hear that again - &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;the problem with his presentation is that it encourages people to think that anyone who offers a more mild critique, or who chooses to focus on what can be learned from the movement without adopting its failures, is every bit as heretical as the most extreme elements of it.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 320px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://blueye.org.uk/images/20050908163837_img_0322.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words, practically speaking, the fruit of true belief becomes something other than faith in Christ evidenced in the fruit of the Spirit. A believer (or a minister) must now not only accept a basic statement of faith, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;but reject and denounce entire movements and organizations in order to be considered worthy of fellowship&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. That, my friends, is heresy. Do a word study for "factious" in Titus 3:10, and you'll know what I mean. Its divisive fruit can be seen in the way churches have been devestated, not for adopting the views being criticized, but for refusing to condemn people who see some good in it. Those who do not say "I am of MacArthur" (cf. 1 Co. 1:10-17) on the issue are thrown onto the pile of burning liberals in the valley of Hinnom. Again, this isn't a theoretical observation. My church has been torn apart by those sporting this attitude in respect to the last faculty lecture series (on the NPP). In other words, the reason I've been thrown to the wolves in my ministry in the past isn't because I don't respect these men, but precisely because I do. I'm fully aware that the divisive and decietful actions taken by those who use these lectures can't be laid at the doorstep of the ones giving them, but I'm not willing to say that they have no responsibility for the way that their words will be used.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, for the record, when I've begged for more measured words, some more acknowledgements of positive contributions, and more nuanced critique, it's not out of some abstract or pedantic longing for "academic integrity" - it's certainly not out of bitterness. It is, instead, out of &lt;strong&gt;a)&lt;/strong&gt; a genuine longing for God's kingdom to be advanced through a local ministry which is entirely focused on the advancement of the Gospel and &lt;strong&gt;b)&lt;/strong&gt; an intimate knowledge of the consequences of these presentations which ultimately hinder that work among Biblically faithful ministries (to the discouragement of even those who make them).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 200px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/6818/columbo.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One final note - anyone who responds to this post by reminding me that "the NPP redefines the Gospel" or "the Emergent Church doesn't know the Gospel" has already missed the point. The spectrum represented in both movements have valuable contributions to offer, and we can safely leave aside the extremes and obvious errors. There are also various elements in both movements (NPP and Emergent) that believers may safely disagree about without invoking the word "heresy" or "separation". Yet as much as they might be grieved by it, the effect of these sorts of presentations is just as often irrational suspicion as it is "discernment" (though offenders will often equate the two). Ultimately no amount of protesting and clarifying one's position from the Scriptures will do unless the opposition is thoroughly and completely rejected using the same words issued by MacArthur. Again, don't mistake that for postulating possible negative outcomes. My family and others who I love have experienced the devestation. Similarly, any insinuation that my personal experiences have simply provided me with an "axe to grind" shows that you haven't heard what I'm saying - read the fourth paragraph again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, those are officially my last words about the issue, and perhaps my last words on Soylent Green. As I contemplate shutting her down, I'm thankful for the insightful remarks, patient reproof and thought-provoking comments offered over the last 8 months.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;I SHOULD ALSO CLARIFY THAT THESE SENTIMENTS, AS ALL OF THOSE FOUND ON THIS BLOG, ARE MY OWN, AND NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF THE ELDERS OF MY CHURCH.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113986375893683784?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113986375893683784/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113986375893683784&amp;isPopup=true' title='47 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113986375893683784'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113986375893683784'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/02/my-last-post-on-tms-and-emergent.html' title='My Last Post on TMS and Emergent'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>47</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113981124448399759</id><published>2006-02-12T22:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-02-13T08:41:18.456-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerg/ing/ent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'>Some More Reflections on TMS and Emergent . . .</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/200591904446/$file/050830-M-1837P-007low.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/200591904446/$file/050830-M-1837P-007low.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Given the response to my comments in a &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/02/masters-seminary-takes-on-emergent.html"&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt; about the TMS faculty series on Emergent, I thought I'd post a few links to throw attention elsewhere and distract from my daring helicopter escape: &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Andy Snider's getting the emergent church hysteria out of his system &lt;a href="http://theologyislife.blogspot.com/2006/02/getting-emerging-church-out-of-my.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://theologyislife.blogspot.com/2006/02/getting-emerging-church-out-of-my_11.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Andy's a good guy. Check it out. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;There have been a few posts on The Boar's Head Tavern, including &lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/archives/2006/02/11/00038061.html"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/archives/2006/02/04/21037824.html"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. The iMonk himself bestows some kindly &lt;a href="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/archives/2006/02/10/22038053.html"&gt;sympathy&lt;/a&gt; upon the Raja. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tall Skinny Kiwi &lt;a href="http://tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com/tallskinnykiwi/2006/02/emergent_at_yal.html"&gt;puts the Master's Seminary in the same sentence as Yale Divinity School&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Though I've never met him, there's something I really like about Scott Zeller in the various posts I've read. Check out his thoughts &lt;a href="http://www.scottzeller.com/2006/02/10/tms-series-on-emergent/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apparently these lectures have already made their way to Germany (!) where Danny Gandy has posted his &lt;a href="http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&amp;amp;trurl=http%3a%2f%2fsoomah.weblogs.us%2farchives%2f264"&gt;brief appraisal&lt;/a&gt; (translation courtesy of Babelfish).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113981124448399759?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113981124448399759/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113981124448399759&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113981124448399759'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113981124448399759'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/02/some-more-reflections-on-tms-and.html' title='Some More Reflections on TMS and Emergent . . .'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113951296961367199</id><published>2006-02-09T11:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-01-24T15:25:52.589-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confessions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Personal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rants'/><title type='text'>Stop the Presses!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.simonsays.com/assets/isbn/0689877269/C_0689877269.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://www.simonsays.com/assets/isbn/0689877269/C_0689877269.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's come to my attention that some people (not within my church) have contacted friends of mine in pastoral minsitry with fears about my orthodoxy because of my occasional criticisms of Phil Johnson and John MacArthur. Some of these fears are related to what is seen as me "promoting the New Perspective", which has been given a blanket billing of heresy by some concerned individuals. Beyond the fact that our church has been ravaged by such controversy in the very recent past, and the fact that we have made &lt;a href="http://nampabible.org/images/44.pdf"&gt;our position on the New Perspective&lt;/a&gt; clear, I'd like to point out a few things to keep in mind when reading this blog:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I love Phil and John:&lt;/strong&gt; Though I have in the past criticized both Phil Johnson and John MacArthur for their reactions to various trends in evangelical churches/scholarship, I have always pointed out that I respect them and agree with them on most issues. 9 out of 10 times it's the manner in which they criticize and the way their criticisms are sometimes used to smash other truly born again believers that fuels my critique of them, not the substance of their doctrinal conclusions. I have benefitted from the ministry of Grace Community Church in a hundred ways and recognize the positive impact of these guys.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I am theologically conservative and orthodox:&lt;/strong&gt; What I will never do on Soylent Green is call into question the inspired, inerrant, infallible Word of God, the Trinitarian nature of God, the secure, electing love of God, the Chalcedonian nature of Christ, the literal death and resurrection of Christ for the penal substitutionary atonement and forgiveness of our sins, the necessity of faith and repentance plus nothing to appropriate this forgiveness and justification, the imputation of Christ's divine status of righteousness to believers by virtue of union with Him, the sealing and sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit at the moment of regeneration and the bodily return of Jesus in His coming kingdom. However this blog IS NOT an attempt to explain these settled doctrinal positions. It is instead intended to promote discussion, reflection, debate and refinement (not redefinition) of my thinking on other theoretical issues and implications. Because it is a scratch pad for my thoughts, it isn't a reflection of my core doctrinal convictions anymore than thoughts about whether heaven will include pets or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I am approachable:&lt;/strong&gt; If you have problems with what I post, POST THEM IN THE COMMENTS or EMAIL ME DIRECTLY. The point of this blog is for my edification and yours, and if there are Biblical, logical or pastoral reasons for disagreement I want to be confronted with them so that I can change and grow. That's the point. If you have a question about how I define words like justification or imputation, or if you're wondering if I believe in salvation by works ASK ME! And if my answers don't satisfy you, post your concerns and tell me why not! Don't try to use this site to silently build a case for my heterodoxy. It doesn't reflect concern for me and it doesn't display integrity as a brother/sister in Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I love debate: &lt;/strong&gt;It's been stated above, but in case anyone missed it: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;don't confuse discussion with my position&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. I'm trying to be thought provoking. I'm trying to sort out the issues, not claim that I have them all sorted out or reporting what I have sorted out. I'm often trying to play the devil's advocate in order to elicit Biblical reflection. Moreover I have several friends involved in Biblical studies and a devestatingly handsome twin I like to toss around theological issues with, and this is my primary means of doing that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I have no liberal loyalties:&lt;/strong&gt; Much of this blog is simply reflection on books I've read. I don't endorse the views of all the authors I read, and I actively try to find the best in them, so if you don't hear me blowing them out of the water or focusing on their errors, that's intentional. I will occasionaly be critical, but for the most part my focus is on what I can learn to help me understand God's Word. So, if I'm not blasting someone who you think deserves to be blasted or if I'm blasting someone you think doesn't deserve to be blasted, don't take that as me "defining my allegiances". I'm not. If you think I am, you'll be annoyed more often than not. My allegiance is to God, the elders of my church, the people to whom I minister and to all those who have been born again. My conscience is held captive to the Word of God, but I recognize that I still have so much to learn about it!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Maybe there's more to say, but I can't think of anything else right now. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;If you have concerns, take this opportunity to let me know or post a comment! &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;I don't bite, and when I do, I apologize! For the most part those who have posted here recognize all of the above, and I offer my sincere thanks for the wonderful interaction I enjoy here. The idea of starting a blog was primarily as a ministry to me, in order to find a space to dialogue and mix it up over theoretical and methodological issues that don't find a lot of relevancy in the Sunday School class. The last thing I'd want to do is mislead or confuse a brother as to the essentials of the Christian faith!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you'd like to read the few posts where I actually mentioned N.T. Wright you can read them &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/10/wright-and-reformed-rancor.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/08/leon-morris-falls-prey-to-new.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. The posts which more off-handedly mention him are &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/11/book-bonanza.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/08/would-you-like-freis-with-that.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/12/dig-doug.html"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/02/objectivity-and-interpretation-pt-3_08.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. You can judge whether you thought me to be saying something inappropriate or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, for all those reading this post with lingering suspicion, I humbly suggest you read a previous post about what I call "&lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/10/doctrinal-politics.html"&gt;doctrinal politics&lt;/a&gt;" in the spirit of brotherly kindness with which it was intended.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113951296961367199?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113951296961367199/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113951296961367199&amp;isPopup=true' title='19 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113951296961367199'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113951296961367199'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/02/stop-presses.html' title='Stop the Presses!'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>19</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113942030844885846</id><published>2006-02-08T10:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-02-10T10:05:39.460-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><title type='text'>Objectivity and Interpretation pt. 3</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://caxton.stockton.edu/bookish/picture$53"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://caxton.stockton.edu/bookish/picture$53" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Although I considered writing a separate article for each of the four points listed below, I think it may be in the best interest of time (mine, anyway!) to simply list them in summary form in a single post. It should be obvious by now that my own answers to the questions posed in my first post are "no", "no", "no" and "no". Exegetes do not operate with methodological objectivity, nor should they. Furthermore neither the apostles nor early church fathers paid much attention to the kind of procedures and criteria foisted upon seminary students in their quest for an unbiased reading of Scripture. What may not be clear, though, is how I might answer the last question - that is, are there interpretive options that repudiate the false ideal of Enlightenment objectivity and at the same time avoid relativistic nihilism? I believe that there are. Below are listed four resources that Christians should draw upon in developing a hermeneutical bridge from the text to the reader. But before I list them, there are some general comments I think germane to the topic of theological methodology and the interpretation of Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, while the postmodern critical theories of Derrida, Rorty, and Fish may be helpful in their chastisement of an overstated modernism as "too big for its breeches", I think they are ultimately bankrupt in providing sensible alternatives for what counts as textual meaning, literary knowledge and the ethical treatment of texts. While I understand that misconceptions and caricature abound in portraying the true import of these theories (particularly that of Derrida), it seems to me that the fundamental failure to see texts as truly communicative in some meaningful way hamstrings the entire discussion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ufrsd.net/AHS/Gallery/art2003/Kara%20-%20Confusion.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 258px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 205px" height="172" alt="" src="http://www.ufrsd.net/AHS/Gallery/art2003/Kara%20-%20Confusion.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Related to this is a second observation about method, and that is the issue of intuition. Doubtless, our perceptions of the world are often misguided and sometimes even downright mistaken - but any theory which utterly disregards our pre-critical impressions, especially of those features of the world with which we interact so often (like speech, writing and reading) is, in my view, a failure. Theory is an attempt to elucidate existing objects and practices, and one criteria of a theory's success should be the degree to which it explains phenomena adduced by pre-critical intuition. Please don't mistake this comment as an appeal to common sense - Aristotle spoke of how appearances prove to be much more complex and counter-intuitive upon investigation, and I agree with him - but these complexities have explanatory power only to the degree to which they elucidate our initial impressions. The more radical doubt a theory casts on our intuitions the more explanation and evidence we ought to demand from it - and it's here that I find the arguments of many poststructural strategies sorely lacking. In all of the claims to the author's death I haven't seen why I should believe this is so; I've yet to see an intelligible reconstruction of the crime scene much less the presentation of the body. But I'm not nearly as well-read as I ought to be on the subject - maybe some commenters can help.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, I must say that the above observation has given me a gross distaste for the global claims made by literary critics about not only the nature of texts, reading and interpretation but with the nature of knowledge, ethics and (of course) God. Here, in my judgment, is where postmodern literary critics need some chastisment with no less fervor than they dish out to the modernist tradition of Western philosophy. The uneasy sense with which they never seem to "show me the money" (as mentioned above) grows into disgust when at the same time the claims made about metaphysics and epistemology are so sweeping and self-assured. I can't help but see them as "too big for their breeches". Even with my paltry knowledge of subjects philosophical (I have an undergraduate degree in history alongside my divinity degree), I can see that parallel observations about the limits and nature of language have grown alongside literary criticism in the analytic tradition. What's more, the subject of epistemology seem to have grown past many postmodern objections without the absurdly grandiose pronouncements, and with (instead) tightly reasoned attempts to answer objections, inconsistencies and explanatory failure. Postmodernism, not least postmodern literary theories, seems strangely immune to criticism by those who tout them. Does that make you suspicious? It should. With that said, here are some ways forward (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;note that the pictures are resource links&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.homestead.com/philofreligion/Plantingapage.html"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.pouyan.ws/photos/authors/plantinga-01.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1) Reformed epistemology:&lt;/strong&gt; Knowing how to interpret a text depends upon how and how much you think a person can know. Reformed epistemology has, in my mind, has given the strongest account for what knowledge is and how it works without succumbing to the criticisms of postmodernist anxiety. The moderate correspondence theory of William P. Alston and the moderate foundationalism of Alvin Plantinga not only resonate philosophically, but theologically in that they promote a "faith seeking understanding" (i.e. a dependence upon Christian starting points). They are fundamentally presuppositional, eliminating the notion of "neutral common ground", which takes into account the most basic postmodern sensibility (there's a topic for discussion!). They imply the notion of covenant loyalty as a necessary part of what it means "to know", and know truly. Applied to Scripture this means that we should come to the text Christianly, without the apologetic pressure to prove our readings to be "objectively verifiable" to those who don't display a commitment to the Christian worldview. This requires seeing the text as not only the work of human hands, but as divine discourse (a phrase used by another Reformed philosopher, Nicholas Wolterstorff). The divine intention is made most clear when we see texts in their canonical setting, and divine discourse can only take place when the reader has personal knowledge of the Author.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ajgoddard.net/Writers/Kevin_J__Vanhoozer/kevin_j__vanhoozer.html"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.calvin.edu/scs/images/vanhoozr.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2) Speech-act theory:&lt;/strong&gt; While someone might want to debate the success of Vanhoozer's attempt to ground speech-act theory in theological conviction (cg. &lt;em&gt;Is There a Meaning in This Text?&lt;/em&gt;) it seems to me that a theory of interpretation must take into account the author as a communicative agent, the text as an account of something the author did, and the distinction between the act of the author and the effects of the text. Seeing language primarily in terms of semiotics, encoded thoughts in need of contexts for decoding, is a classically Cartesian mistake upon which deconstruction depends. Moreover, the notion of a text without authorial intent is nonsense. There, I said it. The difference between noise and speech, tittles and texts, chaos and communication, is intention. Seeing texts as purposeful human actions (just as other human actions, like driving, sneezing and sex) requires the concept of intention. Speech-act theory seems to hold these things together well without reducing intention to some kind of psychologized Schleiermacherian "stepping inside the author's skin". Intention isn't about the mental state of the author, but what the author does in tending to his words with linguistic conventions appropriate to the speech-act.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ajgoddard.net/Writers/Richard_B__Hays/richard_b__hays.html"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.intrust.org/images/hays.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3) Apostolic interpretation:&lt;/strong&gt; The apostles (and the church fathers, for that matter) went further than a simple descriptive use of Scripture in its original context. They used it ironically, antithetically, and a number of other creative ways in order to show how God's actions in the present were an outgrowth of something He had done in the past. In his book &lt;em&gt;Echoes of Scripture in the Letters of Paul,&lt;/em&gt; Richard Hays shows how Paul's use of the Old Testament was not only more sophisticated than proof-texting, but more careful as well. This involved something more than attending to the historical grammatical context but something less than arbitrary appropriation according to words or phrases which might help his argument. He instead proposes that the quotations display an intertextual melding which brings together the circumstances of his letters with the context of the quote to create new meaning. The constraints he mentions to this use of Scripture (namely 1. God's faithfulness to his promises, 2. the testimony of Jesus' death and resurrection - i.e. the Gospel - and 3. the goal of cruciform church) together with his seven guidelines listed for hearing "echoes" provide an understanding not only of how Paul used the Old Testament, but how Christians might (and in fact do) read Scripture today. Without regurgitating his argument here, I would point out that Paul's practice of reading Scripture not only emphasizes a sensitivity to the historical situation in which they were written, but with one eye to contemporary events in the church "upon whom the ends of the ages has come". This collapses the "what it meant" and "what it means" into a single category, much like Paul himself seems to do in his use of OT texts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ntwrightpage.com/"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.caresonline.com/Tom%20Wright.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4) Critical realism:&lt;/strong&gt; I'm not sure what it means to speak of "critical realism" as a full-blown epistemology, but the general attitude is one I think is key not only to doing history (as Wright deftly displays in &lt;em&gt;The New Testament and the People of God&lt;/em&gt;) but to the interpretation of Scripture. This involves, firstly, a stance toward the text which sees it as adequately (though not exhaustively) knowable, though in a mediated sense. It also sees the role of explanatory power as an important criteria for faithfulness to the text; in other words, instead of exalting the detailed analysis of exegesis as the most important feature of interpretation it seeks to take into account the larger "narrative world", itself shaped by texts, within which the authors lived, moved and had their being (as do we!). Laying these larger paradigms over the Biblical text to see similarities and differences should be an interpretive priority of equal value as exegesis in getting at the author's intended meaning. More than that, though, critical realism is a disposition which sees that however obscured our vision may be, or however provisional our readings may be, adequate understanding is not only possible, but plausible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously more could be said. I would have liked to said more about Jewish exegesis in comparison (and contrast) with Paul's use of Scripture with an eye to the issue of "objectivity", but having mentioned these four suggestions, I'll just be content to move on!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113942030844885846?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113942030844885846/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113942030844885846&amp;isPopup=true' title='26 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113942030844885846'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113942030844885846'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/02/objectivity-and-interpretation-pt-3_08.html' title='Objectivity and Interpretation pt. 3'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>26</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113937796720964938</id><published>2006-02-07T22:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-02-07T23:42:23.640-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerg/ing/ent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'>The Master's Seminary Takes On Emergent</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.tms.edu/audio.asp?ministry_id=3&amp;dlyear=-1&amp;amp;dlcat=Faculty+Lecture+Series&amp;dlcat2=-1"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.tms.edu/images/jm.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;A couple of their newest faculty lectures dealing with the Emerging Church are available on the The Master's Seminary website (click the picture above). John MacArthur introduces the topic in relationship to Biblical authority while Dr. Larry Pettegrew addresses the philosophical "paradigm" of the emerging church. Soon to follow are messages by Trevor Craigen on emergent views on man, sin and salvation, Dick Mayhue on emergent ecclesiology and Rick Holland on emergent worship and preaching.  Check it out and please post your comments!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113937796720964938?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113937796720964938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113937796720964938&amp;isPopup=true' title='37 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113937796720964938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113937796720964938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/02/masters-seminary-takes-on-emergent.html' title='The Master&apos;s Seminary Takes On Emergent'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>37</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113839998534448671</id><published>2006-01-27T13:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-02-01T08:42:41.680-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><title type='text'>Objectivity and Interpretation pt. 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.forchuteckconsulting.com/images/methodology.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.forchuteckconsulting.com/images/methodology.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; If objectivity in interpretation is the attempt to examine the text of Scripture with methodological neutrality, namely the effective suspension of emotions, judgments, desires, past experiences and theological convictions, it should be plainly obvious that objectivity is a hopeless chimera. It should also be plainly obvious that it is in fact an undesirable goal. The Scriptures emphatically repudiate the detached observer in affairs divine; in fact, it seems to suggest that such detachment is a result of the kind of proud self-reliance which singularly &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;prevents&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; a person from coming to know the subject of divine revelation. More on that later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But for now, notice the fundamental presumption upon which the concept of objective interpretation rests, namely that there is a canon of interpretive rules to which we apply to the text in order for it to yield the interpretive goods. &lt;a href="http://paullamey.blogspot.com/2006/01/exegesis-lost.html"&gt;A friend of mine&lt;/a&gt; recently characterized the proper method for interpretation this way: 1) identify the literary genre, 2) identify the pericope, 3) isolate lexical and syntactical hinges, synthesize and principlize, 4) establish biblical-theological implications, 5) develop pluriform homiletical application (read both the excellent post and the comments in the above link!). But where do these rules come from? Is it common sense to "identify the pericope" or "isolate lexical and syntactical hinges"? How do we know that the intent of the human author should serve as the desiderata of legitimate interpretation? Beyond these problems, how can it be that our earliest Christian heritage reflected in patristic interpretation fundamentally violates and subverts these notions in a hundred ways? More on that later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But back to this problem of interpretive desiderata. On what basis can a person defend "objective" methods such as the ones above as truly "biblical" norms for understanding Scripture? Without some authoritative source it remains unclear how the application of such principles can ever be truly "objective", especially if it is always up to the interpreter's personal judgment to determine in what manner (and according to what priority) these principles are applied. Ultimately, the inability of rooting a scientific method of interpretation within the Bible itself proves to be the Achilles heel of an objectivist, exclusively author-oriented interpretation. Moreover, neither the apostles nor contemporary Jewish interpreters seemed to be aware that they were saddled with this kind of interpretive responsibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More on that later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://library.thinkquest.org/C005704/media/perception_vase.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://library.thinkquest.org/C005704/media/perception_vase.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But this is not to forsake Scripture as an authoritative divine word in favor of relativistic nihilism (by which queer interpretation is on the same playing field as traditional sermonizing). It is, instead, a recognition that the Bible is in fact &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; just like any other book. The interpretation of it requires a distinctively theological hermeneutics which understands the Scriptures as more than an artifact to be studied under purportedly objective scientific criteria. The Scriptures should not be understood to &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;contain&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; a communicative act of God which must be dug up, analyzed and decoded, but rather &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;as the very communicative act of God itself&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. As such the only appropriate hermeneutical method will be shaped by Christian conviction and the dictates of Christian virtue modeled within the historic community of the Christian faith. It will also be a dialogical hermeneutic, in which the reader's context plays some important role in understanding the message, as true communication can't be achieved by an interpretive strategy that only goes one way. Gadamer was right to say that situatedness should not be seen as a handicap to be surmounted in interpretation, but instead a vehicle for understanding. Revelation is apprehended (and transformation is experienced) not by way of some quasi-Gnostic transportation from the self into the heavens, but by the wrestling which takes place in the fusion of the reader's personhood with the "other" of the text. Obliteration of the self in order to understand divine truths is an old heresy which now masquerades as interpretive integrity under the auspices of Enlightenment values.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.isca-speech.org/graphics/main_image.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.isca-speech.org/graphics/main_image.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Far from being an "anything goes" type of reading, it commends that an interpreter continue to do business with the text in order to shape, refine and challenge his understanding of it. Far from making truth inaccessible or glutting the theological task with uncertainty it recognizes that truth comes in covenantal contact with God through the way Scripture acts upon its hearers. The Scriptures facilitate this relationship by the power of the Spirit, not simply by propositions to be believed (though this is one important communicative act of God), but by promises to be trusted, commands to be followed and narratives to be entered into. In all of these ways the text must be seen as more than just a recipe for theological description, but as speech acts which remain relevant not because of some concocted scheme for "application", but through the abiding illocutionary power they contain as performative utterances. Kevin J. Vanhoozer speaks of the illocution of Scripture taking place at the level of sentence, text and canon such that the authorial intention transcends the human author even as human authors mediate the divine discourse. Thus:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;To limit oneself to recovering only the human authorial intentions is to fall short of theological interpretation. And to impose one's own intentions or the intentions of one's community is to fail to guard oneself from potential idols (K. Vanhoozer).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113839998534448671?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113839998534448671/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113839998534448671&amp;isPopup=true' title='26 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113839998534448671'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113839998534448671'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/01/objectivity-and-interpretation-pt-2.html' title='Objectivity and Interpretation pt. 2'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>26</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113814039031949570</id><published>2006-01-24T15:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-01-30T00:24:32.646-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><title type='text'>Objectivity and Interpretation</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.cis.nctu.edu.tw/~whtsai/Taiwan_Tours/Huko_&amp;_Hsinfeng/Webpages/A.%20Huko%20Old%20Town/5.%20Old%20Articles%20(A)/03%20An%20old%20abacus%20made%20of%20wood.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.cis.nctu.edu.tw/~whtsai/Taiwan_Tours/Huko_&amp;_Hsinfeng/Webpages/A.%20Huko%20Old%20Town/5.%20Old%20Articles%20(A)/03%20An%20old%20abacus%20made%20of%20wood.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;John Walton, professor of OT at Wheaton College, reflects the conservative evangelical consensus about objectivity in Biblical interpretation when he says, "Objectivity is the goal of hermeneutics so that the text of Scripture may speak for itself." For purposes of definition, objectivity can be seen as the brute qualities of a thing which exists independently from any conscious awareness of it. In the fact that objectivity speaks of reality as independent from our perceptions of it, an objective description seeks to state the case "as it is" regardless of anyone's perceptions. Subjectivity, then, is defined as the relative perceptions of a thing viewed through some contingent conscious state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before the Enlightenment, philosophers were relatively optimistic about the ability to perceive objects as they really are. Grappling with the essences of things was no easy task, to be sure, and reasoning the "whatness" of objects was a defining characteristic of classical philosophy - but for the most part our ability to rightly perceive the phenomena of objects in the world was taken for granted. During the Enlightenment, the primacy of metaphysics gave way to the primacy of epistemology, where the act of perceiving itself became an object of scrutiny. Immanuel Kant famously criticized the idea of empirical observation as providing the guiding principles of rationality suggesting instead that the categories which exist inside the mind predetermine our observations of objects in the world. From this standpoint the object doesn't simply impress itself on the mind, the mind actively discerns the object through its own (mostly reliable) categories. If that's true, as the Enlightenment project has assumed, it makes the ideal knowledge one in which nothing comes between the vision of a knower and the thing known. This is true even of Kant, since he believed that though the world in itself (outside of perception) could not be known, our minds are still hooked up to the world in a way that speaks truly about objects. Mark Bowald says:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Objectivity" came to connote the character of the epistemological stance a person assumes while struggling to seek out knowledge of things in their epistemological opacity. That stance is viewed as being, ideally, unaffected by prior beliefs or judgments - in some sense 'neutral' or apart from any particular 'perspective'.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jorem123.hostultra.com/001-1.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.jorem123.hostultra.com/001-1.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This observation is crucial to the definition of objectivity. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;It speaks, first and foremost, of a person's impartial disposition toward objects . Moreover this is said to be a necessary disposition in order to arrive at truth.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Put another way, true knowledge necessarily involves eliminating (or mitigating) one's own subjective states, such as emotions, judgments, desires, past experiences, etc., from consideration, since all of these things cloud the vision of the knower. If one is to be objective, he or she must yield to the brute facts which present themselves through impartial observation. Once supporting evidence can be marshaled to bolster a claim, it can be called "objective knowledge".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When it comes to reading the Bible it can be argued that Biblical scholarship has carried on according to this definition as well. Exegetes are those who come to the text suspending subjective factors as much as possible, and neutrally allowing the text to guide them wherever it may as it yields to the scientific tools of the exegete, namely grammar, archeology, history, etc. The data mined from their research is then handed off to Biblical theologians who assemble their objective observations into coherent building blocks which can add to the systematic theologian's overarching picture of what the Bible teaches. The inappropriateness felt by any reversal of this process testifies to the struggle for knowledge as a value-free enterprise. Any exegesis which emerges from theology is subjective, and thus illegitimate. Theology which arises from exegesis remains the only gold standard for what can count as true knowledge of the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jewishworldreview.com/images/puzzled_guy.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.jewishworldreview.com/images/puzzled_guy.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Subsequent posts will evaluate that picture, but first I wanted to throw it out there for your reflection and modification. A few interesting questions to ask might be:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Does it really work this way?"&lt;/strong&gt; Do exegetes operate with neutrality and suspended judgment?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Should it work this way?"&lt;/strong&gt; Is impartiality a Biblical virtue in interpretation? Are there moral implications of objectivity?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Did the apostles interpret Scripture this way?"&lt;/strong&gt; Was their use of Scripture just an arbitrary product of ecstatic revelation which ran counter to how God wants Christians to read Scripture today?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Are these our only options?"&lt;/strong&gt; Does one have to approach the text "objectively" or be doomed to approach it "subjectively", or is there another way of looking at literary knowledge?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113814039031949570?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113814039031949570/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113814039031949570&amp;isPopup=true' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113814039031949570'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113814039031949570'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/01/objectivity-and-interpretation_24.html' title='Objectivity and Interpretation'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113806579790825998</id><published>2006-01-23T18:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-01-23T18:24:26.203-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Intermission</title><content type='html'>I've had a billion ideas for posts in the last several days (one of which will be a series of posts on the nature of "objectivity" in interpretation), but in light of the recent sale of our home and the hectic nature of moving, I can only offer the picture below as a record of my recievcing the aforementioned ideas:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/320/Idiot%20Raja.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113806579790825998?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113806579790825998/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113806579790825998&amp;isPopup=true' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113806579790825998'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113806579790825998'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/01/intermission.html' title='Intermission'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113762991464322700</id><published>2006-01-18T16:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-01-19T13:50:28.936-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confessions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Personal'/><title type='text'>Phil-Uh-Oh</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/images/pyromaniac/pj6.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.spurgeon.org/images/pyromaniac/pj6.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Greek students will be familiar with the above title as a form of the word "love". Okay, that's actually "phileo" (pronounced "phil-eh-oh") - but in any case, the word refers to friendship and it's in that light I'd like to explain the deletion of my previous post entitled "Can't We Get Along Damn it?!" In this obviously peaceful excursion I tried to demonstrate what I felt to be shortcomings in the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://phillipjohnson.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Pyro&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;Maniac&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;'s various theological scuffles, particularly with the emergent Church and the New Perspective. In it I intimated that Phil's &lt;a href="http://phillipjohnson.blogspot.com/2006/01/why-cessationism-discussion-may-be-non.html"&gt;frustration with continuationists&lt;/a&gt; in the cessationist debate is the very same frustration felt by his opponents in these other positions, and (more importantly), that the admonitions he gave to continuationists might help to improve the debate in these areas as well. Aren't I clever?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not everyone thought so. Probably the least clever thing about my post, though, was the public way in which I drew attention to Phil's shortcomings, which (especially after seeing his response) I now realize was somewhat un-classy and even less helpful for him than I feared it may be. In any case a retraction is certainly in order. It was severely rash to post something like that just because irony can be so fun. If, in this post, Phil is now enjoying some irony of his own, he can thank me later. I have been unkind more than once in his "comments" section in the past, and doubtless this wasn't the best way to renew my complaints. Seeing how it's proven so difficult for me to point out the problems with the PyroManiac's approach without offending:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;Forgive me, Phil. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But take a lesson from me and don't get too greedy in enjoying the irony. Just to be clear, I don't think the irony is the way I "mischaracterized" your handling of issues like the New Perspective and Emergent - it's in the fact that I was so unkind as to point it out in such a public, unconstructive way.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113762991464322700?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113762991464322700/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113762991464322700&amp;isPopup=true' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113762991464322700'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113762991464322700'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/01/phil-uh-oh.html' title='Phil-Uh-Oh'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113745540210258729</id><published>2006-01-16T16:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-01-16T17:30:19.100-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerg/ing/ent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'>Framing the Emergent Church</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/2005McLaren.htm"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/200/frame.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/2005McLaren.htm"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I just came across &lt;a href="http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/2005McLaren.htm"&gt;this book review&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310257476/103-5255943-7007041?v=glance&amp;n=283155"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Generous Orthodoxy&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://www.rts.edu/academics/faculty/index.cfm?fuseaction=faculty.bio&amp;amp;id=19"&gt;John Frame&lt;/a&gt;. It seems to be a critical (though even-handed) jot about McLaren's ecclesial vision. It's encouraging to read a critical review once and awhile without having to dab the subject's spattered blood from one's face, which makes this one worth the read.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Frame has been the author of several interesting essays lately, including his &lt;a href="http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/2003Machen.htm"&gt;analysis of the fighting instinct inherited from Machen&lt;/a&gt;, an appropriately unsentimental &lt;a href="http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/2003Hurting.htm"&gt;article on hurting people's feelings&lt;/a&gt;, and a &lt;a href="http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/2003Minorities.htm"&gt;stark recognition&lt;/a&gt; of the lack of minority appeal in Reformed Churches.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Go, Johnny go!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113745540210258729?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113745540210258729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113745540210258729&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113745540210258729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113745540210258729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/01/framing-emergent-church.html' title='Framing the Emergent Church'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113730225993282167</id><published>2006-01-14T21:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:57:55.053-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><title type='text'>Ugh . . .</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.blaisracing.com/assets/images/broken_fingers.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.blaisracing.com/assets/images/broken_fingers.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;After typing all day long I finally finished tagging all of the MP3s of last year's Evangelical Theological Society Conference lectures. I wasn't interested in about 93 percent of what I was laboriously cataloging, which made the whole process all the more enjoyable. Beyond that, the one panel I was looking forward to listening to again was "joined in progress", which means that someone forgot to turn the microphone on until AFTER the more insightful comments were made (namely Jim Beilby's response to Merold Westphal about theology and the postmodern turn).  Still, James D.G. Dunn's session with Scot McKnight, Don Hagner and Craig Evans seems to have been recorded flawlessly, as did some of the sessions by fellow bloggers &lt;a href="http://michaelfbird.blogspot.com/"&gt;Michael Bird&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://cafeapocalypsis.blogspot.com/"&gt;Alan Bandy&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://metalepsis.blogspot.com/"&gt;Bryan Lee&lt;/a&gt;.  My iPod is now a whole lot smarter than I am (not that it wasn't before all I had on it was Tom Petty and The White Stripes).  Together with my other lectures, I now have about 547 hours of &lt;a href="http://www.otterbox.com/products/ipod_cases/ipod_20gb_case/"&gt;shower-time bliss&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113730225993282167?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113730225993282167/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113730225993282167&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113730225993282167'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113730225993282167'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/01/ugh.html' title='Ugh . . .'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113718895001840904</id><published>2006-01-13T14:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:58:14.883-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><title type='text'>Get Real . . .</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.list-5.com/realist/images/welcome.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.list-5.com/realist/images/welcome.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;One of the many longstanding debates in the world of philosophy is over the nature of existence (metaphysics) - do things exist in total independence from our senses, or can they be said to exist only in light of our perceptions of them? This philosophical scuffle can be called "the realism/antirealism" debate, and (as you might expect) it's got tremendous import for doing theology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This has been noted most recently in light of the postconservative/emerging/purple theology move being made by several evangelical theologians in which some notions of anti-realism have influenced their understanding of the theological task. In particular, the idea that our language refers to the world the way it actually is has been challenged on a number of different levels. The world, instead, can only be viewed from various perspectives within their theory-laden observations. These observations can genuinely say something about the world, but there is no genuinely objective "way it is". An example I recently heard about this idea was as follows: suppose I have a number of items on a table, and I ask you to tell me how many items exist on the table. The number you give will depend upon things like the way you group the items (you may choose to view the cell phone and the detachable clip as one item; you may choose to count a muffin and it's wrapper as two items) and what you choose to count as an item (you probably wouldn't count individual crumbs as an item; you'd likely not count each molecule as a seperate item). In this case there is no "the way it is", as multiple answers will be correct from different perspectives. Merold Westphal and John Franke are two examples of contemporary evangelical theologians who have adopted some version of anti-realism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thonemann.org.uk/images/realismantirealism4.gif"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://matrix.ogaming.com/gallery/albums/Fan-Art/matrix_tube_sized.sized.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 0px 10px 10px; float: right; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://matrix.ogaming.com/gallery/albums/Fan-Art/matrix_tube_sized.sized.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Obviously most traditional theology assumes so measure of realism. Most contemporary evangelicals who have responded to the anti-realist tendencies of postmodern theology might consider themelves noetically specific anti-realists - that is, they deny that the minds of anti-realists exist. What are your thoughts about the validity or significance of realism/anti-realism in doing theology? How would this affect what theologians could call "true" or "false"? Is it possible for an anti-realist to preach an authoritative Gospel, or does this view constitute heresy?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113718895001840904?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113718895001840904/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113718895001840904&amp;isPopup=true' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113718895001840904'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113718895001840904'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2006/01/get-real.html' title='Get Real . . .'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113607839766816631</id><published>2005-12-31T18:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-12-31T18:19:57.706-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Happy New Year!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://ducts.org/12_04/images/Study%20for%20The%20Second%20Coming.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://ducts.org/12_04/images/Study%20for%20The%20Second%20Coming.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Happy New Year's Day!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God's Kingdom be faithfully furthered by His People in 2006.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maranatha!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113607839766816631?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113607839766816631/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113607839766816631&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113607839766816631'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113607839766816631'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/12/happy-new-year.html' title='Happy New Year!'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113562961739761150</id><published>2005-12-26T09:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-12-27T14:52:36.610-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><title type='text'>Biblical Potpourri for 500 . . .</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/gilling_windmills_1968_home.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/200/gilling_windmills_1968_home.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The study of the Bible is an inherently political action, in more ways than one. There are, of course, the oft noted ways in which this is so, such as the way reading the Bible establishes the relationship between Church and world in public life; but there are more intramural ways in which reading the Bible is a poltically charged endeavor, and I'm not talking about denominationalism. A good deal of commotion is generated in what one could call "departmentalism".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems like studying the Bible in an academic setting means being swallowed whole by colonizing sub-disciplines, all of which vie for supremacy among specialists. The net effect of hyper-specialization is that not only is a pastor (such as myself) beset with choices between different translations of Scripture, and choices of interpretations within the text of Scripture, and choices of hermeneutical schemes to interpret Scripture, and choices of theological systems that are faithful to Scripture, but with the choice of &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;which one of these questions is more important than the others!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Which questions are most determinative in trying to understand, preach and obey the Bible?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/P66-1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/200/P66-1.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060738170/002-9893397-6616023?v=glance&amp;n=283155"&gt;Bart D. Ehrman&lt;/a&gt; argues that textual criticism is every bit as ideological as it is textual - how can a person even begin to engage in "biblical theology" if the selection of texts which supposedly constitute an author's (or set of editors') "theology" is arbitrarily selected by contemporary scholarship? The theological nature of variant readings mean that in selecting what is supposedly the "original" text one is ultimately aligning herself with competing theologies. How can Scripture be said to be inspired if we don't even know which words belong to Scripture? How reliable are the manuscripts which make up the Bible? How substantive were the changes and is the original text recoverable? Even if it does make sense to speak of an "autograph", what does the fact of scribal changes say about the cohesiveness of Christianity in its earliest days? Moreover, if one can't establish an authoritative text, what's the point of doing theology or talking about interpretation?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Biblical theology is an enterprise that is notoriously spoken of as "in crisis" even though it continues to pulse with activity. While the Biblical Theology Movement can said to have been leveled by the criticisms of James Barr and company, the academic task of establishing a plausiblly historically situated theology continues. Moreover the basic project of Biblical theology seems an invioble part of Biblical studies as a whole. Baruch Spinoza or J.P. Gabler didn't invent the concern that the Bible should speak for itself, with its own categories and agendas. The idea that the Bible should be understood on its own terms instead of serving as a dogmatic diving board is something close to a universal intuition. It's this inutition that makes the discipline of Biblical theology an invetibly colonizing force on other disciplines, ready to slap the hands of the ambitious systematician, reprove the anachronisitic philosophical categories of the hermeneutically fanciful and carry the banner of Biblical authority for the Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, without dogmatics it becomes unclear what unites the cacophany of divergent voices of Scripture in all their historical particularity. What does something Isaiah said in his historical context have to do with anything Matthew might say in his? Can one even "preach the Gospel" without engaging in some kind of supra-historical creedal synthesis? For all the lofty ambitions of Biblical theology, its historical interests yield such a strict emphasis on diversity that the Bible collapses into a disjointed product of human imagination instead of the singular voice of God. But more than that, theological preunderstandings and creedal loyalty subtly (and sometimes not-so-subtly) fund both historical criticical and Biblical theological methodology; and that fact places systematics in a position of primary importance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/pomogoodnewsbible.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/200/pomogoodnewsbible.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The new totalizing force in Biblical studies seems to be the issue of how one relates to the postmodern turn, which has brought with it a self-critical emphasis on philosophical starting points. Postmodernism seeks to pull back the curtain from our detached claims to theological knowledge, revealing the wizard of culturally informed theories of truth and justification. Epistemology has become the new prolegomena. One can't engage in any level of the theological task without giving account of the philosophical superstructures within which it takes place. I would have never imagined that being interested in Biblical studies would impel me toward the likes of Wittgenstein, Searle, Heidegger, Tarski or Davidson.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Textual criticism, biblical theology, systematic theology and philosophy are just a few of the sub-disciplines within the guild that seem to draw all others into their orbit, defining the problems and solutions in light of their own gravitational fields. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you're in ministry, which of these disciplines do you believe is most determinative in trying to faithfully minister the Bible to your people?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you're in the academy, does this picture misrepresent the current state of affairs?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you're neither (or both) of the above, do you think that there's one primary "center" for theological studies, and if so what is it?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113562961739761150?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113562961739761150/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113562961739761150&amp;isPopup=true' title='26 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113562961739761150'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113562961739761150'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/12/biblical-potpourri-for-500.html' title='Biblical Potpourri for 500 . . .'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>26</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113466541592263588</id><published>2005-12-15T09:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-12-15T14:11:08.763-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The results are in . . .</title><content type='html'>&lt;img alt="David Palmer" src="http://images.quizilla.com/G/GeorgeMason/1053618904_ishedDavid.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Palmer&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My wife and I LOVE the series "&lt;a href="http://www.fox.com/24/"&gt;24&lt;/a&gt;" - but for the life of me I can't figure out how I managed to be President Palmer on this quiz. Someone want to explain it to me?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://quizilla.com/users/GeorgeMason/quizzes/Which%2024%20Character%20are%20you?/"&gt;Which 24 Character are you?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:0;"&gt;brought to you by &lt;a href="http://quizilla.com"&gt;Quizilla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;UPDATE: Here are the results for my wife:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img alt="Kate Warner" src="http://images.quizilla.com/G/GeorgeMason/1053619135_nishedKate.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kate Warner&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113466541592263588?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113466541592263588/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113466541592263588&amp;isPopup=true' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113466541592263588'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113466541592263588'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/12/results-are-in.html' title='The results are in . . .'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113443535252262831</id><published>2005-12-12T17:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-30T23:59:08.490-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'>Dig Doug?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://landru.i-link-2.net/shnyves/christ.Judge2.jpeg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.writerscramp.ca/images/type03.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.writerscramp.ca/images/type03.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Occasionally I get a hankering for conspicuously ornamental prose, and that's when I wander over to Doug Wilson's &lt;a href="http://www.dougwils.com/"&gt;Blog and Mablog&lt;/a&gt;. While I can't always agree with him, I dig Doug's style. Of all the the white knights fighting for the claim of a truly Reformed heritage Doug seems to be one of the most reasonable and even charitable. His &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/10/wright-and-reformed-rancor.html"&gt;assessment of N.T. Wright's various contributions&lt;/a&gt; was a still small voice of sanity among the clamor of &lt;a href="http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/2003Machen.htm"&gt;warrior children&lt;/a&gt; suiting up for battle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, there are certain topics which elicit some of the most vengefully florid verbage you'll ever hear from Doug, and postmodernism happens to be one of those subjects. In &lt;a href="http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&amp;CategoryID=1&amp;amp;BlogID=1721"&gt;a recent post&lt;/a&gt; he criticizes the theological moves being made by postconvservatism by making a distinction between the autonomous, secular Enlightenment varieties of foundationalism (the Cartesian variety) and dependent Christian versions of it (inerrantism). The fundamental problem with the Enlightenment project, says Wilson, isn't the existence of foundations but an ethos of selfishness. In his view, rationalism is idolatry because it assumes that objectivity and certain knowledge flows from the self while true Christianity maintains that it flows from God. The problem with postmodern criticisms, then, is that they are decrying the impossibility of objective human knowledge without advocating (or demonstrating) dependence upon God's provision of it in the Scriptures. The desire to formulate interpretive strategies which mitigate human objectivity or propositional certainty is thus seen as "modernity's nervous breakdown"; a "whimpering selfishness".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://landru.i-link-2.net/shnyves/christ.Judge2.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 0px 10px 10px; float: right; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://landru.i-link-2.net/shnyves/christ.Judge2.jpeg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;All of this isn't completely untrue - there are some ways in which postmodern theology seems to miss the irony behind discussing the complexity and impenetrability of "revelation". In what sense does it "reveal" anything? But what Doug (and a good many others) seem to miss is the very issue which postconservative theology seeks to wrestle with - and that is, of course, the hermeneutical issue. To speak of the Scriptures as an authoritative source of theology is uncontroversial among many postconservative evangelicals; the problem becomes how the Scriptures function authoritatively in light of hermeneutical (not textual) indeterminancy. The fact is that our only access to the Scriptures is through subjective medium.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's hard to disagree with all of Doug's railing against both the enthroned and the chastened Self. It's equally hard to refrain from celebrating the truimph of the triune God in "de-centering" the Self as He speaks in Scripture. What remains puzzling, though, is how we can come to the Scriptures without our "selves". Does God come to the Scriptures for us, on our behalf, or must we come to hear Him speak? Is there some way to come without bringing ourselves with us? If not, how have we been "de-centered" by God? What accounts for the discrepancies between the Spirit taught theologies of Luther and Calvin, Wesley and Warfield or, for that matter, &lt;a href="https://aomin.org/bookstore/shop.html?shop=audio#417"&gt;James White and Doug Wilson&lt;/a&gt;? Which party is being autonomous in this case? Who's doing the whoring? More importantly, how do we know, and how do we avoid it ourselves such that our theology truly represents the mind of God as revealed in Scripture? Is it possible for two people to be dependent upon the Spirit, committed to hearing Scripture's voice and not their own, both being thoroughly "de-centered by the triune God" to disagree on what Scripture says? What does all of this say for the Bible's authority?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately the problem doesn't dissolve in rhetoric (even Wilson's mostly delightful rhetoric). The plain fact of the matter is that Spirit-filled Christians of great learning and admirable lifestyles give persuasive cases for opposing theological commitments while at the same time claiming an equal share of God's authority - and that's the best case scenario. In the worst case scenario pernicious regimes and self-serving individuals help themselves to the authority of God's Word in order to bolster their own ideologies. Claiming to "stand on God's Word" thus becomes an impenetrable bulwark of self-preservation, deceit and manipulation. That's what postmodernism seeks to expose. Postconservatives may acknowledge that God has spoken in the Scriptures and that it is authoritative; what they are wrestling with is how that works.  How can our apprehension, systematization and application of Scripture can be said to represent God's mind, given the fact that we can't understand revelation apart from all of our limitations?  As these brethren cast about for answers, I can't say I always agree with the positive suggestions for a way forward; but for all the &lt;a href="http://www.geoffrobinson.net/auburnavecontroversy/"&gt;hellish controversy&lt;/a&gt; Doug's been through (lovingly handcrafted by Presbyterians standing on the word of God), I can't see why he can't recognize some small glimmer of prophetic quality in that critique.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lamanopress.com/images/devil%20arrogance.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 200px;" alt="" src="http://www.lamanopress.com/images/devil%20arrogance.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;For all of the rhetorical panache of Wilson's closing illustration ("God tells Adam to stay away from the tree, and Adam walks over to it, whistling, telling himself that 'to pretend that he, a finite creature, was capable of understanding, still less comprehending, this voice from the numinous realm -- why, that would be the true arrogance. And gee, that fruit looks good. I believe I'll have some'), the sad fact is that one needn't craft clever parables to illustrate the abuses of Biblical authority in Western history. The examples are all too real. Is it possible to be &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;too sqeamish&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; about Christian collusion with Nazi Germany in the name of the Scriptural mandate to "be subject to the governing authorities"? But the problem is worse than that.  It isn't just that some people do bad things with the Bible; it's that the fact that everyone claims their own interpretations as God's authoritative decree &lt;em&gt;without the possibility of falsification&lt;/em&gt;, which of course renders any concept of authority useless. That's not to say that there's no &lt;a href="http://www.ivpress.com/cgi-ivpress/book.pl/code=3239"&gt;consensus&lt;/a&gt; as to what the Bible says, or that it's not authoritative; but it is to say that there is plenty of conceptual work to be done in terms of &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; it functions authoritatively in light of these issues. To say "just read it" is more than disingenuous - it'd dangerous, because the highest form of self-exaltaion is to equate oneself to the living God and invoke His name in the advancement of falsehood.  Postconservative theologies are sincere attempts to treat these issues with appropriate solemnity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In light of that, it may be worth asking, "has postmodernism actually influenced evangelicals to give the triune God their middle finger in the way Doug fears?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Observe one of Doug's frequent debate partners on the topic, P. Andrew Sandlin; he has listed a few &lt;a href="http://culturalleadership.blogspot.com/2005/12/postmodern-moniker.html"&gt;tenents &lt;/a&gt;which can be said to be influenced by postmodernism. Among them are the analagous way in which men apprehend God (sharp Creator-creature distinction), the ontically holistic nature of knoweldge (a being, not a mind, thinks), the fact that humans only see in partial glimpses, not exhaustively, the danger of human arrogance in ascribing one's own views to God, and the fact that our theology should be dynamic, open to change in light of Scripture. All of that sounds like a fairly "de-centered self" to me.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113443535252262831?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113443535252262831/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113443535252262831&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113443535252262831'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113443535252262831'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/12/dig-doug.html' title='Dig Doug?'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113373922497379326</id><published>2005-12-04T16:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-12-09T12:04:26.420-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><title type='text'>Take, Eat . . .(part 2)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.hmpc.org/images/communion.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.hmpc.org/images/communion.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;1 Corinthians 10, at first glance, struck me as a strange smattering of topics artifiically smashed together by someone with attention deficit disorder. Paul speaks about the children of Israel in the wilderness, and seems to want to instruct the Corinthians with their example; but then the topic of communion pops up out of nowhere in verse 17. After that he launches into the topic of food sacrificed to idols, and then communion again, and then meat sold in the marketplace, and then “doing all things for the glory of God” – what does any one of those have to do with the rest? After spending some time trying to answer that question, I think I discovered what the obstacle was, and (as usual) it was to be found less in the text than it was in me; namely, in my shallow expectations about what Church should be. I default into thinking of the church as a service; but Paul thought of it as a family that extends even beyond those now living (the children of Israel "ate spiritual food" and "drank spiritual drink"). The relevance of Israel's appetite for idolatry and the Corinthian confusion over meat sacrificed to idols are all bound together by verse 17 – when we partake of Christ together, we become family, and we are thus (verse 24) to “seek the good of one another.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul's point seems to be that recieving Christ and fleeing idols is something done by a community, not by piously introspective individuals. By recieivng Christ and fleeing idolatry we mark ourselves out as the one people of God; those who, through Christ, are to suceed where Israel failed. The issue of eating meat sacrificed to idols wasn't so much a crisis of personal morality, but a call for the Corinthians to be a distinct people from their pagan neighbors (something Israel failed to do). Yet, as verse 27 indicates, Paul's desire isn't for selfish community formation. Love is the rule, both among believers and unbelievers, which should manifest itself in a desire to protect their consciences. But in all of these things the driving concern is for the integrity of the community, marked out by communion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://clipart.crossmap.com/data/medium/1143756693.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://clipart.crossmap.com/data/medium/1143756693.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The ancient world held table fellowship as one of the highest forms of friendship, intimacy and unity. This is why the issue of who Jesus chose to eat with was such a big deal to the Pharisees. The Pharisees even saw their tables at home as substitutes for the altar in the Jerusalem Temple. Their outrage at Jesus not “washing his hands” before he ate betrayed their concern for sacramental purity and community identification, not legalism or neurotic hygiene. Those who were allowed to come to the table together were defined according to ethnicity, race, class, wealth and status.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in Jesus, Paul says, Jew and Gentile, slave and free, male and female, barbarian and Scythian all come to the same table. It’s no wonder that the early church was viewed as destructive to society; it broke down all the divisions that people thought of as necessary to keep its proper order! By eating at the Lord's Table together, the disciples were doing something revolutionary – they were reorganizing their family relationships, their friendships, and all those they would associate with not around extended relatives, common interests, shared status or level of income but around Jesus.  Communion shattered societal norms of friendship and family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The early church was just that: a family. They provided for one another; they paid one another’s debts; they ate in one another’s homes; they adopted uncared for children in one another’s families; they opened their homes and finances to one another and even called one another “brother” and “sister”. And that, believe it or not, was every bit as weird and suspicious to the Roman world as it would be for us today. For people to share in one another’s lives like that, to that degree – to not just call each other “brother” but to actually treat one another as immediate family members, was considered “unnatural” in the Roman world. But at the same time it made some people uncomfortable, it drew thousands of other people to the table, and into God’s kingdom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we take communion we aren’t just affirming our union with Christ in mystical fellowship; we’re affirming our union with one another as friends, but more than just acquaintances who share a common faith. We’re affirming a union that’s more like limbs to a body or the members of a family in a household. When we take of the same bread and drink of the same cup we receive the same Jesus and recognize that no one among us recieves more or less than another. 1 Co. 11:27 warns us to take this proclamation with utmost seriousness. This verse is usually used as an exhortation to "search your heart" for any moral failing that might make you unworthy of participating in communion. Sometimes a moment of silence is even provided to help you uncover any unconfessed sin that you might need to take care of before taking part. Maybe that's not a bad idea - but it has nothing to do with what Paul's actually concerned about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Verses 20-22 give us an idea about what "unworthiness" he has in mind: “Therefore when you meet together, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper for in your eating each one takes his own supper first; and one is hungry and another is drunk. What! Do you not have houses in which to eat and drink? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you? In this I will not praise you.” Apparently when the Corinthians came to the Lord’s table the wealthy (those who owned homes) pushed their way to the front of the line in their debauchery and left nothing for the poor brothers among them – those who “have nothing”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://7art-screensavers.com/screenshots/animals/lion-and-the-lamb.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://7art-screensavers.com/screenshots/animals/lion-and-the-lamb.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In verse 33 Paul says what he has in mind as behavior "worthy" of communion: “So then, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another.” Partaking in a worthy manner isn't an act of pious individualism; it involves honoring and loving all those who have recieved Jesus as members of the same family. The reconciliation of God's Creation, the advent of His shalom has begun in us, upon whom the "ends of the ages have come" (1 Co. 10:11), and communion signals the inbreaking of God's coming era of mutual, self-giving, Christlike love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next time you receive the elements, think about what you’re about to do. You are receiving Jesus as the satisfaction of your souls, and fleeing idolatrous cravings as "that which can never satisfy". You are identifying yourself with one people of God and committing yourself to honoring the most "unseemly" of its members. Only if you believe these things can you, as it says at the end of ch. 10, “eat or drink to the glory of God”.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113373922497379326?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113373922497379326/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113373922497379326&amp;isPopup=true' title='24 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113373922497379326'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113373922497379326'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/12/take-eat-part-2.html' title='Take, Eat . . .(part 2)'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>24</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113355220201410374</id><published>2005-12-02T12:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-12-02T16:02:56.556-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><title type='text'>Take, Eat . . .(part 1)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.wga.hu/art/j/joos/eucharis.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.wga.hu/art/j/joos/eucharis.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In preparation for communion with my congregation this Sunday I thought I'd post some of my reflections from &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2010;&amp;version=47;"&gt;1 Corinthians 10&lt;/a&gt; on the matter:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because of our historical controversy with the Roman Catholic Church, and the subsequent Zwinglian over-reaction (adopted by most evangelical communities), the Lord’s table has become a naturalistic liturgical afterthought. In services I've attended, participated in and even led, there's always been a concerted effort to explain that nothing mystical is actually taking place, and that the entire ceremony is nothing more than an occassion for self-examination. But for Paul (and both Lutheran and Calvinistic traditions), communion wasn’t just an “ordinance” in the sense of a regulation which the church is supposed to meet in order to be “up to code”; he considered the holy meal “spiritual food” and “spiritual drink”. For all of the Reformers' sola fide conviction, for the most part they didn't seem to share the soteriological queasiness with which we repeat the words "this is my body" and "this is my blood". They affirmed with equal vigor that bread and wine can’t save anybody. They ardently protested against the idea that priests could somehow transform these elements into the actual flesh and blood of Christ by cultic incantation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet, with Paul, they say communion as an act of mystical, spiritual fellowship both with Jesus and with one another. In &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Co%2010:15-16&amp;version=47"&gt;verses 15-16&lt;/a&gt; Paul declared that the cup is a means of blessing in which we share in Christ’s body and his blood. The children of Israel in the wilderness were supernaturally sustained by God not just physically, but spiritually; by the manna from heaven and the water from the rock which Moses struck. In their eating and drinking they tangibly experienced God’s deep personal commitment to delivering them from their slavery and bringing them into the new land; they were vividly reminded of their total dependence upon Him for their every provision. In eating, they entered into fellowship with God; they sat at His table. But they also entered into fellowship with one another. This dependence and salvation wasn’t just experienced by one, two or a two-hundred of them but by every single Israelite in the desert. They were delivered as a community, as a fellowship as a family. They all ate the same spiritual food and they all drank the same spiritual drink.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/images/supper3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/images/supper3.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But notice that there was nothing automatically sanctifying about eating this meal; it didn’t automatically reconcile them to God, and it didn’t magically reconcile them to one another. In fact, Paul reminds us that even after receiving spiritual food and spiritual drink they still “craved evil things”. They weren’t satisfied by the meal God was providing; and so &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Co%2010:6;&amp;version=47;"&gt;verse 6&lt;/a&gt; says that their hunger turned to lust, and in &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Co%2010:7-8;&amp;version=47;"&gt;verse 7&lt;/a&gt; their lust turned to immorality, and &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Co%2010:9-10;&amp;version=47;"&gt;verse 10 &lt;/a&gt;says that these evil cravings and all their attempts to fill it brought not contentment, not satisfaction, not full bellies, but grumbling. God was displeased with them, and he poured out His wrath upon them; &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;but even before this there was judgment, because as they sought to satisfy their hunger with idolatry and immorality, they remained hungry, and they died in their discontentment.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point here is that Christ is our spiritual food and spiritual drink, not just for when we were converted, not just for yesterday, but for the present, and for every moment we call “now”. He’s given to us in order to satisfy our cravings; and so this meal which we share isn’t just a law to observe; Paul says its one means by which we share in the body and blood of Christ and find continual food to sustain our spiritual lives. It’s a reminder that we must both receive Christ and flee from idols not once (at conversion), but always and “as often as you eat of it” and “as often as you drink it”. And he doesn’t say that we need to do that not by simply speaking about it. We receive these graces and proclaim His death until He comes by actually eating of the bread and drinking from the cup.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://guelph.jccs.ca/images/JohnCalvin.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://guelph.jccs.ca/images/JohnCalvin.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Consider this lengthy quote from Calvin as to the importance of the bread and the cup for our spiritual sustenance:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“For as God, regenerating us in baptism, ingrafts us into the fellowship of his Church, and makes us his by adoption, so we have said that he performs the office of a provident parent, in continually supplying the food by which he may sustain and preserve us in the life to which he has begotten us by his word. &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Moreover, Christ is the only food of our soul, and, therefore, our heavenly Father invites us to him, that, refreshed by communion with him, we may ever and anon gather new vigour until we reach the heavenly immortality&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. But as this mystery of the secret union of Christ with believers is incomprehensible by nature, he exhibits its figure and image in visible signs adapted to our capacity, nay, by giving, as it were, earnests and badges, he makes it as certain to us as if it were seen by the eye; the familiarity of the similitude giving it access to minds however dull, and showing that souls are fed by Christ just as the corporeal life is sustained by bread and wine. We now, therefore, understand the end which this mystical benediction has in view—viz. &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;to assure us that the body of Christ was once sacrificed for us, so that we may now eat it, and, eating,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;feel within ourselves the efficacy of that one sacrifice,—that his blood was once shed for us so as to be our perpetual drink&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. This is the force of the promise which is added, “Take, eat; this is my body, which is broken for you” (Mt. 26:26, &amp;c.). The body which was once offered for our salvation we are enjoined to take and eat, that, while we see ourselves made partakers of it, &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;we may safely conclude that the virtue of that death will be efficacious in us&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Hence he terms the cup the covenant in his blood. For the covenant which he once sanctioned by his blood he in a manner renews, or rather continues, in so far as regards the confirmation of our faith, as often as he stretches forth his sacred blood as drink to us" (Jean Calvin and Henry Beveridge, Institutes of the Christian Religion, IV, xvii, 1; emphasis mine)."&lt;/blockquote&gt;The Lord's table is more than just a commemorative ceremony; it's a means of grace by which we are drawn into intimate fellowship with God.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113355220201410374?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113355220201410374/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113355220201410374&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113355220201410374'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113355220201410374'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/12/take-eat-part-1.html' title='Take, Eat . . .(part 1)'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113331404817767478</id><published>2005-11-29T17:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-11-30T15:26:09.010-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Personal'/><title type='text'>Which one is the Blue Raja?</title><content type='html'>Here's a hint: he's the dumber one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.the-earchives.com/wavs/m/mysmen19.wav"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://static.flickr.com/32/67223094_e162f97341.jpg?v=0" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Believe it or not, I honestly couldn't tell at first. I was equally attracted to both of them.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113331404817767478?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113331404817767478/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113331404817767478&amp;isPopup=true' title='19 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113331404817767478'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113331404817767478'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/11/which-one-is-blue-raja.html' title='Which one is the Blue Raja?'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>19</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113315423938761676</id><published>2005-11-27T21:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T22:05:30.933-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quotes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><title type='text'>Postmodernism: Stale, Mate?</title><content type='html'>I encountered the following quote from the &lt;a href="http://www.generousorthodoxy.net/thinktank/2005/11/geertz_on_postm.html"&gt;Generous Orthodoxy Thinktank&lt;/a&gt; which seemed to affirm &lt;a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/11/ets-ibr-sbl-aar-and-peta.html"&gt;my take&lt;/a&gt; on postmodern influences for Biblical studies a few days ago (namely that it's fundamentally a critique, and not a viable project in itself). The mouth from which these words hail is that of Clifford Geertz, whose work apparently exercised influence over postliberal thinkers such as &lt;a href="http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=15"&gt;Hans Frei&lt;/a&gt; - no surprise, given his emphasis on community in understanding the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://phillips.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/224geertz.gif" border="0" /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I think that postmodernism is past its sale date. It is not irrelevant, it had tremendous critical importance. However, as a pattern for future development I think it is a dead end. I think we should listen and learn from them and then move along. They have with their critique helped to clarify some of our fundamental concepts, such as culture or interpretation, but they will not last as a program in themselves. And that, the clarification and critique, changed the direction of anthropology. Therefore, my way of interpretive anthropology will go on much chastened by this. We will no longer have a simple-minded notion of what interpretation is; we are now aware of the problem of meaning-realism, and so forth. All this is terribly important. Personally, they influence me, and to some degree, I am still a part of it. As for cultural anthropology, it will in my view go on in reasonable continuity with its past. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;What do you think?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113315423938761676?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113315423938761676/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113315423938761676&amp;isPopup=true' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113315423938761676'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113315423938761676'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/11/postmodernism-stale-mate.html' title='Postmodernism: Stale, Mate?'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113296377011214964</id><published>2005-11-26T18:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T21:48:14.473-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>Book Bonanza</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://rmfo-blogs.com/rumorsage/wp-content/wtsbooks_1851_99628502.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://rmfo-blogs.com/rumorsage/wp-content/wtsbooks_1851_99628502.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; This is one of the books I got for free at a publisher's reception. John Armonstrong sees this book as an important attempt to see both the human and divine facets of biblical revelatioon in thier apporpriate fullness. He generally praises the book in his &lt;a href="http://johnharmstrong.typepad.com/john_h_armstrong_/2005/09/interpreting_th.html"&gt;review&lt;/a&gt; and laments the treatment it's recieved in Reformed circles. For those who may be interested, Joel Garver also wrote a review &lt;a href="http://sacradoctrina.blogspot.com/2005/08/enns-on-inspiration-peter-enns.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0830832394.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0830832394.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; This is another give-away title I picked up at the conference. It looks to be typical of Packer's sanctified optimism, and for that reason alone promises to be a refreshing read. You can read David Neff's &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/103/21.0.html"&gt;write-up&lt;/a&gt; on it from Christianity Today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abingdonpress.com/displayImage.aspx?iid=+058384+&amp;ext=U5"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.abingdonpress.com/displayImage.aspx?iid=+058384+&amp;ext=U5" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Richard Horsley's work on Paul and Empire make this a tantalizing complement to Thiselton and Fee as I preach through this epistle. Horsley sees the Corinthian Christian community as an alternative &lt;em&gt;polis&lt;/em&gt; and highlights the political nature of Paul's gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abingdonpress.com/displayImage.aspx?iid=+057051+&amp;amp;ext=U5"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.abingdonpress.com/displayImage.aspx?iid=+057051+&amp;ext=U5" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I'm looking forward to reading some comments on Romans outside the New Perspective axis of controversy. Keck's apocalyptic reading of Paul and commitment to let Romans stand on it's own (instead of smashing it together with Galatians) will make this a fun read for my Sunday School preparation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060816090.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060816090.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Tom Wright whimsically commented about the horrible title afforded this treatment biblical authoirty, along with the random picture slapped on the front cover. Yet the depiction of Jesus on the front of Wright's treatment of the Bible's authority seems appropriate, since he strenuously argues for biblical revelation's dependence upon God's own authority exercised in Jesus. &lt;a href="http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Bible_Authoritative.htm"&gt;Here's&lt;/a&gt; a taste of Wright's thinking about the matter from &lt;em&gt;Vox Evangelica&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zondervan.com/jpeg/0310234158.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.zondervan.com/jpeg/0310234158.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I've immensely enjoyed the other volumes of &lt;em&gt;The Scripture and Hermeneutics Series&lt;/em&gt;, and this one looks paritcularly good with contributors like Gerald Bray, Chris Wright, James Dunn, John Webster and Charles Scobie. If Dunn's contribution is any indication of this volume's quality, I can't wait to dig in! There's a brief revew for your consideration at &lt;a href="http://beginningwithmoses.org/library/blurboutofegypt.htm"&gt;Beginning With Moses&lt;/a&gt; blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zondervan.com/jpeg/0310234166.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.zondervan.com/jpeg/0310234166.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Since the whole point of the series is to engender deeper understanding of the biblical text it's fitting that they focus an entire volume around the actual work of interpretation. &lt;em&gt;Reading Luke&lt;/em&gt;, the latest offering in the series, features some first rate contributions from Anthony Thiselton, Joel Green, David Wenham, I. Howard Marshall and Max Turner. In addition to theological interpretation and issues of language, an entire division of the book is given to issues of historical reception of the Gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0801026946.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0801026946.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; One of the most enjoyable sessions I attended was the panel review of this new reference volume from Baker. The criticisms included a lack of attention to historical critical issues and a leaning toward the Reformed Anglo-American contributions to the topic; but these criticisms aside, it looks like a truly majestic piece of work, and I've been looking forward to its publication for a year now. I've already perused a few articles and have enjoyed it immensely as a bedside "readers digest" of diverse theological interest. With the conference discount, this is the best 25 dollars I've spent in a while!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.calvin.edu/~jks4/rortcover.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.calvin.edu/~jks4/rortcover.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I heard John Milbank speak at SBL and I have no idea what he's talking about. I've had my interest in Radical Orthodoxy piqued by reading Hauerwas and Yoder, but thus far I've never encountered its British roots. In attempting to read this book on the plane back to Idaho I felt as though i'd been dropped into the middle of a debate I didn't understand. All that to say I think I may pick up Smith's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801027357/002-4972072-7136822?v=glance&amp;n=283155&amp;amp;v=glance"&gt;other volume&lt;/a&gt; on the topic to get some idea as to what's going on, but until then I'll have to take this one slow with a broadband connection close by so that I can look up all of the unfamiliar nomenclature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/006063796X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/006063796X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I've already read much of this book and was enthralled by the colorful and coherent picture Hays paints here. Using the categories of community, cross and new creation Hays masterfully draws a unified thread from the tapestry of New Testament witnesses. For a less than glowing appraisal, see &lt;a href="http://www.bookreviews.org/pdf/2034_1051.pdf"&gt;Dale Martin's review&lt;/a&gt;; but for a more evenhanded treatment, see &lt;a href="http://www.ntgateway.com/goodacre/hays.htm"&gt;Mark Goodacre&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9712/reviews/meilaender.html"&gt;Gilbert Meilaender&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113296377011214964?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113296377011214964/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113296377011214964&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113296377011214964'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113296377011214964'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/11/book-bonanza.html' title='Book Bonanza'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113280022734089329</id><published>2005-11-25T01:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-12-31T00:03:57.500-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Books'/><title type='text'>ETS, IBR, SBL, AAR and PETA</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.peta.org/about/images/banner01.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 400px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://www.peta.org/about/images/banner01.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;. . . okay, not PETA. But I did return from &lt;a href="http://www.etsjets.org/"&gt;ETS&lt;/a&gt;/&lt;a href="http://www.ibresearch.com/default.asp"&gt;IBR&lt;/a&gt;/&lt;a href="http://www.sbl-site.org/"&gt;SBL&lt;/a&gt;/&lt;a href="http://www.aarweb.org/"&gt;AAR &lt;/a&gt;this week, and I had a marvelous time with some of my most cherished, colorful, Caucasian friends around the country. Even though it wasn't long before our room began to smell like a Bombay bus station, spending time with these guys is always worth the price of admission. Please accept my apologies for the sparse posting! In any case, after having some time to process the various papers and conversations I experienced, I thought it might be appropriate to blow the mucus which is my reflection onto the Kleenex which is this blog. Why else would I call it "Soylent &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Green&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;"? Rather than chronicling the iterations of my thoughts in every individual seminar I attended, allow me to enumerate some general themes I found to be of interest:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.crystalinks.com/plato.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: right; width: 198px; height: 247px;" alt="" src="http://www.crystalinks.com/plato.jpg" border="0" height="360" width="198" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;strong&gt;1) Epistemology:&lt;/strong&gt; In just about every session I attended, the issue of epistemology lingered around the edges of the paper, only to come periodically crashing to the center, especially when dissent was expressed by panelists or audience members. When it comes to theological discourse, it seems increasingly the case that Jerusalem has actually been relocated to Athens. Issues of prolegomena and theological method have become hot-button topics in Biblical studies, and in many ways I see this as a positive development: Evangelicals are now being forced to lay their philosophical cards out on the table and expose their epistemological underwear. This kind of methodological strip-poker is the necessary beginning for any meaningful rapprochement in that it must be acknowledged that the correspondence theory of truth, accounts of epistemic justification, and traditional theories of language can neither be found in the pages of Scripture nor referenced as “obvious” common sense. Being forced to defend these notions in all of their philosophical technicalities highlights just how NOT common sense the issues really are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other ways, though, the center stage given to philosophy can be somewhat frustrating. For one thing, the theologians discussing the issues don’t always have formal training or adequate grasp of contemporary debates in epistemology, which inevitably leads to muddled distinctions, well-worn caricatures and passé (re)formulations. My frustration with this is particularly acute, since I’m only being introduced to these issues via theological debate, only to find out upon further research that my confusion has as much to do with the major participants as with my own initial unfamiliarity. What is foundationalism, and is the rejection of it a rejection of both strong and weak varieties? By anti-realism are we referring to a metaphysical or epistemological position? Is the debate over foundationalism about epistemic justification, or is it a disagreement as to what counts as knowledge in the first place? Is a rejection of correspondance a rejection of Truth? In listening to the debates the answers to these questions aren’t always clear. What is clear, however, is that engagement in these disciplines (philosophy and theology) is crucially clarifying for both parties. The discussion between Merold Westphal, James Beilby, John Franke and Kevin Vanhoozer at the Evangelical Philosophical Society was especially helpful in illuminating this point. Keep watching this site, as I may be posting an mp3 of this session soon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://philo.zm3.net/pictures/derrida.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; width: 268px; height: 362px;" alt="" src="http://philo.zm3.net/pictures/derrida.jpg" border="0" height="637" width="409" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2) Postmodernism:&lt;/strong&gt; The buzzwords in greatest currency at all of the sessions I attended were terms related to postmodernism - postfoundationalism, poststructuralism, postcolonialism, postconservativism and the like. The fact is, whether one likes it or not, the contours of contemporary debate in most of the disciplines within the guild of Biblical studies (including theology, hermeneutics and missiology) is being shaped by the variegated challenges of postmodernism. The positive effect of this has been the chastisement of positivistic excess and the cultural hegemony exercised by these disciplines under the guise of rational purity and detached objectivity (and hence the increasing discussions of prolegomena mentioned above). Yet, the negative effect is that since postmodernism tends to be more of a critique than a positive contribution, the void left by such criticisms tends to be filled by an untenable skepticism which seems incompatible with the missional prerogatives of the Church. Most of the friendly wrangling with my pals at the conference was over these sorts of issues, but the tension remains - how does one appropriate the global criticism of postmodernism, and the potential it holds for subverting the traditional impasses of Biblical studies, without resorting to nihilistic incredulity? Fortunately some positive contributions have been made in light of postmodern: Though Vanhoozer mentioned that he was "cooling" to speech-act theory as a panacea for all theological ills, I still think it represents heuristic value for textual meaning; Reformed epistemology holds some promise for an account of theological knowledge (while Bruce Marshall attempts a different account by way of a semantic conception of truth ala Alfred Tarski); critical realism is, if not rigidly &lt;em&gt;methodological&lt;/em&gt;, at the very least an &lt;em&gt;attitudinal&lt;/em&gt; middle-way between positivism and skepticism; Barth has proven to be a resource for a theological account of our knowledge of God, the Bible, and the (in)adequacy of human language, etc. As for the lasting value of these and other proposals, time will tell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://puffin.creighton.edu/jesuit/andre/images/origen.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: right;" alt="" src="http://puffin.creighton.edu/jesuit/andre/images/origen.jpg" border="0" height="350" width="239" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;strong&gt;3) Theological interpretation:&lt;/strong&gt; There seems to be a growing interest in the Bible as a Christian book. While that sounds like a stupid thing to say, the fragmentation of Biblical studies into adversarial sub-disciplines has presented a well-recognized crisis for churchly appropriations of the Bible. Historical criticism and biblical theology emphasize development, dissent and fundamental disunity in the pages of Scripture while theologians and systematicians wrestle these particularities into submission so that Christians can meaningfully speak of one book, one Gospel. Unfortunately the tug-of-war between unity and diversity has resulted in something worse than a stalemate; it’s created a taut rope for educated clergy to trip over. But a heartening turn was felt at this year’s annual meetings with Baker Academic and &lt;a href="http://www.brazospress.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?type=EcomBB&amp;mod=E%2DCommerce%3A%3AProduct+Catalog&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;mid=70B7D6357AC74DCE82EF28E7D375E854&amp;tier=3&amp;amp;id=0C36E33C3C67406C875653B448F60DA7&amp;ntier1=&amp;amp;ntier2=&amp;ntier3=&amp;amp;ntier4=&amp;ntier5="&gt;Brazos Press&lt;/a&gt; both publishing commentary series dedicated to the theological interpretation of Scripture, as well as &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bakeracademic.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=360E9371EE2645E3843D2D91EA7B79AB&amp;amp;nm=Search+by+Topic&amp;type=EcomBB&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;mod=E%2DCommerce%3A%3AProduct+Catalog&amp;mid=70B7D6357AC74DCE82EF28E7D375E854&amp;amp;AudID=465C2B1075E34FA4A17D335B0E23D5CF&amp;tier=3&amp;amp;id=AE463F7CFD0A4CABB548A35B25C2CFB2&amp;ntier1=&amp;amp;ntier2=&amp;ntier3=&amp;amp;ntier4=&amp;amp;ntier5="&gt;The Dictionary for the Theological Interpretation of Scripture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, a stupendous compendium of articles related to this attempted reclamation of the Bible for the Church. Of course the &lt;a href="http://www.sahs-info.org/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scripture and Hermeneutics Series&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; has also attempted to grapple with the issues raised by the Bible turf wars. Concurrent with these ongoing publications is the formation of a new study group within SBL, as well as a biannual journal dedicated to the topic. Hopefully these developments, alongside burgeoning theological projects which emphasize the controls of community identification and the rule of faith, represent a return to Biblical studies as a churchly endeavor.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113280022734089329?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113280022734089329/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113280022734089329&amp;isPopup=true' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113280022734089329'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113280022734089329'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/11/ets-ibr-sbl-aar-and-peta.html' title='ETS, IBR, SBL, AAR and PETA'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113122850859486995</id><published>2005-11-05T14:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T15:08:28.646-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'>Dealing with Disunity (Final)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.kostomloty-parafia-unicka.siedlce.opoka.org.pl/z/apost.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.kostomloty-parafia-unicka.siedlce.opoka.org.pl/z/apost.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Scraping the surface of &lt;a href="http://bible.gospelcom.net/passage/?search=1%20Cor%201:10-17;&amp;version=49;"&gt;1 Corinthians 1:10-17&lt;/a&gt;, it’s clear that Paul’s vision for Oneness among the redeemed community is of desperate importance. But as one continues through the chapter what becomes even clearer is his contempt for its disruption. Paul’s tone in 1 Corinthians sanctifies sarcasm in legitimate moral outrage. The pinnacle of the apostle’s rhetorical razing comes in &lt;a href="http://bible.gospelcom.net/passage/?search=1%20Cor%204:7-8;&amp;version=49;"&gt;4:7-8&lt;/a&gt; – but its precursor shows up as early as his very first paragraph. Verses 13-17 read, “&lt;em&gt;Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so that no one would say you were baptized in my name. 16 Now I did baptize also the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized any other. 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void&lt;/em&gt;.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.simplifiedsigns.org/scold.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.simplifiedsigns.org/scold.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.simplifiedsigns.org/scold.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;As much as Paul despises rhetoric for the sake of rhetoric, he masterfully baptizes it for Christian use in what’s called a “&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;reductio ad absurdum&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;”. This sort of argument carries your opponent’s thinking to its logical end in order show its absurdity. Parents employ this timeless classic in response to the perennial complaint, “But everyone else is doing it!” The familiar reductio ad absurdum in that case is (say it with me), “If everyone else jumped off a bridge, would you?” The force of the argument is to expose the disastrous logical implications of a particular line of thinking – and the best way to do that is with a question. In addressing the Corinthian mindset, Paul’s got three of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.hredeemer.org/images/pictures/stn-out07.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.hredeemer.org/images/pictures/stn-out07.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The first is, “Has Christ been divided?” For Paul, church splitting absurdly implies that Jesus Himself can be broken into pieces and parceled out in chunks among various factions. How this follows from disunity is not easily discernable for most modern evangelicals, since Christ and the Church are typically held at arm’s length from one another. Resigned to the impossibility of moral victory and desiring to minimize the damage to Jesus’ reputation, the only available coping mechanism is to see His ministry as radically independent from that of the Church. But this is a fantasy. The Church, like it or not, is in mystical union with Jesus Christ. So much so, in fact, that &lt;a href="http://bible.gospelcom.net/passage/?search=1%20Co.%206:15-20%20;&amp;version=49;"&gt;1 Co. 6:15-20 &lt;/a&gt;says when a believer joins himself to a prostitute, he’s not only defiling Himself – he’s defiling Jesus too. 1 Co. 12:27 puts it even more plainly – “&lt;em&gt;Now you are Christ’s body, and individually members of it&lt;/em&gt;.” The neat distinctions we make between Christology and Ecclesiology can be worse than misleading; they can blind us from the fact that the Church is His body, and as such bear His reputation, constitute His earthly presence and mediate His ongoing ministry. As such, seeking to separate believers from one another is a direct assault on Jesus Himself because, though comprised of many members, He is one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/PB_three%20cross%20hill.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/PB_three%20cross%20hill.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/200/PB_three%20cross%20hill.0.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This first question reveals an absurdity in their view of Christ’s Person; the second question exposes the absurdity in relationship to Christ’s work. Even though he used his own name, he could have just as easily inserted the names of Apollos or Peter – none of these men died on your behalf – so why are you choosing sides according to your loyalty to them? I think we should feel free to read the names of any respected teacher in the Church, past or present in verse 13. Is this where the lines that divide us should be drawn? Should we be organizing ourselves according to these sorts of loyalties? Paul’s answer was plainly, “Hell no.” And the reason for that is because of the nature of Christ’s work on the cross – it demands exclusive loyalty. Neither John Calvin, Charles Spurgeon nor John Wesley died for our sins. Neither John MacArthur nor Rick Warren reconciled our rebellious hearts to God. And since it was none other than Jesus who did that, there is no other loyalty which should be used as the acid test of Christian fellowship. The oft-repeated ultimatum, “Do you stand with X or do you stand with Y” exemplifies Satanic brilliance, because regardless of which option we choose, we’ve inadvertently hacking the heart of true discipleship: exclusive loyalty to Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://fp.thebeers.f9.co.uk/images/baptism3.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://fp.thebeers.f9.co.uk/images/baptism3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 243px; CURSOR: hand" height="189" alt="" src="http://fp.thebeers.f9.co.uk/images/baptism3.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;On top of these implications Paul piles on one more absurdity – “Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?” These divisions reflected different spiritual heritages, the products of different discipleship. Some were influenced more by Peter, others by Apollos; some were the products of Paul’s teaching, and still others claimed to be purists, relying only on the words of Jesus Himself. Surely, then, these divisions reflected different faiths! Not so. No matter who their spiritual fathers were, every single believer in the Corinthian community, as well as every single believer in Macedonia, the Empire, in both times past and present were all baptized into the same name: that of King Jesus. And that baptism was based not on receiving the good news about Paul, Peter or Apollos, but about Jesus, who God has made Lord and Christ by virtue of His death and resurrection. The message of the cross was the basis for baptism in the name of Jesus, and therefore dividing the fellowship was a way of emptying the cross of its significance. The cross brings men of every tribe, tongue and nation into one body through baptism. Gal. 3:28 says, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ll close this series of posts with a searching quote about these verses from Gordon D. Fee: &lt;blockquote&gt;“It is easy to see the urgency of a paragraph like this for the contemporary church, which not only often experiences quarrels such as these at the local level, but also is deeply fragmented at every other level. We have churches and denominations, renewal movements that all too often are broken off and become their own “church of Christ,” and every imaginable individualistic movement and sect. Even in a day of various kinds of ecumenism, the likelihood of total visible unity in the church is more remote than ever. This fragmentation is both a shame on our house and a cause for deep repentance. If there is a way forward, it probably lies less in structures  and more in our readiness to recapture Paul’s focus here – on the preaching of the cross as the great divine contradiction to our merely human ways of doing things.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113122850859486995?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113122850859486995/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113122850859486995&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113122850859486995'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113122850859486995'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/11/dealing-with-disunity-final.html' title='Dealing with Disunity (Final)'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113074617707396587</id><published>2005-10-30T23:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-11-04T13:24:07.313-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'>Dealing with Disunity pt. 3</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.city-buffalo.com/files/1_2_1/SOS/NeighborhoodWatch.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.city-buffalo.com/files/1_2_1/SOS/NeighborhoodWatch.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; When considering the exhortation of &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Co.%201:10-17;&amp;version=49;"&gt;1 Corinthians 1:10&lt;/a&gt;, maybe your picture of what a factious person looks like is something like the &lt;a href="http://www.nnwi.org/"&gt;Neighborhood Watch villain&lt;/a&gt;. He’s easy to spot and, of course, he doesn’t look anything like us. Knowing our own hearts such as we do, and giving ourselves the benefit of the doubt, we recoil at the idea that such a word could possibly apply to us without overstating the case. We may be rough or over-zealous at times; but typically we reserve this sort of terminology for &lt;a href="http://www.kjv1611.org/"&gt;King James Only people&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href="http://www.pristinegrace.org/media.php?id=404"&gt;hyper-Calvinists&lt;/a&gt;, or maybe &lt;a href="http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/macarthur/general.htm"&gt;Rick Miesel&lt;/a&gt;. And while these assessments would be correct, Paul's down-to-earth description of disunity in verses 11-12 should give us pause. The extremities of sinful behavior too easily serve as distractions from the very same roots which lie in our own hearts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice that the first manifestation of factious behavior is manifested in what Paul calls "quarrels". The word there is literally “strife” in the plural – the same word used in Titus 3:9: “&lt;em&gt;But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife&lt;/em&gt;[s]&lt;em&gt; and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless&lt;/em&gt;.” Quarrels aren't discussions; they're not friendly debates or healthy in-house deliberations; they describe a kind of verbal sparring which eventually alienate us from one another and rupture trusted friendships. We all know the difference, though we often pretend we're doing one while we're really doing the other. But quarreling isn't simply the action of shouting at one another – it’s also a way to describe the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;state of a relationship&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. “We’re quarrelling” doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re at this moment engaged in hostile verbal debate – it means that our friendship is being strained and our fellowship is being disrupted by our heated disagreements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://earth.leeds.ac.uk/ebi/images/gallery/gallery1-general/caxiuana,%20measuring%20huge%20tree,%20by%20tim%20baker%2017%20nov%202002.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://earth.leeds.ac.uk/ebi/images/gallery/gallery1-general/caxiuana,%20measuring%20huge%20tree,%20by%20tim%20baker%2017%20nov%202002.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;So far so good; but I suspect that our eyes are still on the branches instead of the roots. What we often fail to recognize is that no one prefers to thinks of themselves as “loving quarrels”. In fact, most of the time we engage in quarrels it’s because we think we’re doing something else - we’re championing the truth against the various manifestations of liberalism, we're standing for God and the Bible in times when it's unpopular to do so, we're being faithful to the Scriptures, come Hell or highwater . . . and so on. But bickering about the truth can still count as quarreling. And this, unfortunately, is often our speciality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Phil. 1:15 says, “&lt;em&gt;Some, to be sure, are preaching Christ even from envy and strife &lt;/em&gt;(or quarrelling)&lt;em&gt;, but some also from good will&lt;/em&gt;.” Strife, like all other sins, is a deceiver. It dresses up stubbornness as "faithfulness". It paints ego as "boldness". It answers the fear of being challenged with the Bible by a call to tow the party line. In short, factious behavior always looks spiritual, and is always painted as virtuous. Always. Without exception. Notice the Corinthians didn't say "I am of Zeno", "I am of Epicurus" or "I am of "Plato". They said, “I am of Paul,” and “I of &lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=14966686#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Apollos,” and “I of &lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=14966686#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Cephas,” and “I of Christ.”&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=14966686#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Those of us who are used to fending off criticisms of being "too harsh" or "too narrow" or "unloving" by seeing these epithets as a compliment, or worse, as a sign of divine approval, should let this bald biblical truth haunt us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.j9arts.com/images/fruit.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.j9arts.com/images/fruit.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.j9arts.com/images/fruit.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In order for our disputes to be spiritual, they must display the fruit of the Spirit. That means that our words, attitudes and even our study should be saturated with love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control; and it should display not just one of these things – just faithfulness, for example – but all of them. Don't let the radical nature of that claim escape you! Imagine what our study (much less our disputes) would look like if it were characterized by the love described in &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20co%2013&amp;version=49"&gt;1 Co. 13&lt;/a&gt;; and that's just one of the nine qualities of the Spirit's yield.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of the four very deeply drawn lines of divisions between Corinthian believers, how concerned do you suppose these factions really were for &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;the truth&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;? I'd venture it had very little to do with it, if for no other reason, Paul, Apollos and Peter were all devoted lovers of Jesus Christ. The clue to what drove their separation lies in the common word shared in all of their sloganeering – the word “I”! Selfishness and arrogance, not truth, stood behind their disputes. They were just using the reputations of these leaders to lend both lend credibility to their own views and to use their respected status as a wedge for other Christians to prove their loyalty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Far from being "spiritual", divisions are usually motivated by lust and manipulation. James 4:1-3 says, “&lt;em&gt;What is the source of quarrels and conflicts among you? Is not the source your pleasures that wage war in your members? You lust and do not have; so you commit murder. You are envious and cannot obtain; so you fight and quarrel. You do not have because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures&lt;/em&gt;.” The coattails of men like Paul and Peter are worn thin from ambitious, pouncing Christians. Respected pillars of the Church throughout it’s history have their share of uninvited tailgate parties as well. And each with our chosen personality set them up as a barometer for who we will fellowship with, and who we won’t. But when the pretentious platter is removed from this dish, and the rhetorical steam clears, what remains isn't meat(&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20corinthians%203:1-4;&amp;version=49;"&gt;1 Co. 3:1-4&lt;/a&gt;); it's shriveled, poisonous fruit (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gal%205:17-21&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Gal. 5:17-21&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113074617707396587?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113074617707396587/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113074617707396587&amp;isPopup=true' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113074617707396587'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113074617707396587'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/10/dealing-with-disunity-pt-3.html' title='Dealing with Disunity pt. 3'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113042616959278985</id><published>2005-10-27T09:03:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2005-10-27T09:18:16.190-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Other Bloggers'/><title type='text'>Selling My Indulgences to Spend More Time in Purgatorio</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.furtherup.com/ebaypics/marc.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.furtherup.com/ebaypics/marc.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;A brief interlude from my current series of posts - I just added &lt;a href="http://purgatorio1.blogspot.com/"&gt;Purgotorio&lt;/a&gt; to my blogroll, for good reason. Marc Heinrich is a witty &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/library/what_we_believe/christian_hedonism.html"&gt;Christian Hedonist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (from Minnesota, surprisingly) who blogs entirely through the medium of pictures. More importantly, he also likes &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/artist/glance/-/125129/ref=m_art_dp/103-4231729-2186252"&gt;Radiohead&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Go check it out - it's not the usual fare in biblio-blogging and it's worth your time. Express enough interest, and maybe he'll invite you &lt;a href="http://fide-o.blogspot.com/2005/10/emergent-view-of-gods-will.html"&gt;to stay at his house&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14966686-113042616959278985?l=greensoylent.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/feeds/113042616959278985/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14966686&amp;postID=113042616959278985&amp;isPopup=true' title='40 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113042616959278985'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14966686/posts/default/113042616959278985'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/10/selling-my-indulgences-to-spend-more.html' title='Selling My Indulgences to Spend More Time in Purgatorio'/><author><name>Sharad Yadav</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blueraja.jpg'/></author><thr:total>40</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14966686.post-113018287744975057</id><published>2005-10-24T13:29:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2005-10-25T13:55:04.036-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preachy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fundagelicalism'/><title type='text'>Dealing WIth Disunity pt. 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/1600/disunity%20picture.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3718/1371/200/disunity%20picture.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; So, first, an exhortation about disunity. How do we approach this problem? Positing solutions seems simplistic from the beginning because of how pervasive and overwhelming a problem schisms have proven to be throughout Church History; but as always, solutions usually begin on the individual level. Verse 10 simply says “Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment.” Considering what was actually happening among the Corinthian fellowship, that seems an astonishing and somewhat naïve thing to say. The immediate issues which leap to mind in protest might be the moral ones, since heinous familial sexual misconduct, divorce, temple prostitution and reckless litigation could all be named among the Corinthian fellowship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the doctrinal problems were no less severe. Beyond their eschatological confusion (1 Co. 4:5-8), they denied the existence of a resurrection, and probably the resurrection of Christ Himself (1 Co. 15)! In the face of such flagrant moral and doctrinal meandering, one might wonder how Paul could even assume he was speaking to brethren at all – yet the exhortation in verse 10 addresses them as such. Lest we try to excuse Paul’s inclusive attitude by characterizing the Corinthians as simply “confused” or “mistaught”, consider that Paul’s apostleship was in question, and his ministry under skeptical scrutiny by the fledgling congregation (1 Co. 4:3-4, 9:3). But the opening of the letter in verse 2 proves that this knowledge didn’t hinder Paul from seeing the Corinthians as “saints by calling” who, “with all those in every place, call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours.” Christian standards of conduct were in decay, and the doctrinal situation was in dire straits, and yet Paul consistently regarded the Corinthains as a Spirit filled family of faith because of their professed allegiance to Jesus as their only Lord and King (cf. 1 Co. 12:3).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.gkf-fotografen.nl/albums/albuo55/Compassion.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.gkf-fotografen.nl/albums/albuo55/Compassion.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Even though he could have declared the Church an apostate fellowship comprised of doctrinal miscreants, he continued to regard them (and exhort them) as family – they were a severely dysfunctional family, but they were “brethren” nonetheless. It’s interesting to note that in nearly every case Paul uses these words, “I exhort you”, he appeals to the familial nature of their relationship (Ro. 12:1, Ro. 15:30, Ro. 16:17, Phil. 4:1-2, 1 Thess. 5:14 and 1 Tim. 5:1). Perhaps the best example of the spirit behind this kind of exhortation is in Philemon 9-10: “yet for love’s sake I rather appeal to you [same word] —since I am such a person as Paul, the aged, and now also a prisoner of Christ Jesus— 10 I appeal to you for my child, whom I have begotten in my imprisonment, Onesimus.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet Paul’s heart for unity wasn’t simply motivated by sentimental familial ties or a desire to “keep the peace at all costs”. The exhortation in verse 10 isn’t just based on their relationship as “brethren”, but on the “name of the Lord Jesus Christ.” Jesus’ name, of course, calls to mind who He is, what He’s done for us, and at minimum, His teaching. Jesus taught His disciples to be One, and to distinguish themselves from the world by their mutual love for one another (Jn. 13:34-35). Thus Paul’s desire for their unity was motivated primarily out of a holy zeal for Christ’s own reputation, which the Church sullies by the arrogance of her divisions. And this is Paul’s ultimate concern – the reputation of Jesus Christ. In order to secure this kind of obedience, he commends three practices for their fellowship to embrace at the individual level: 1) “that you all agree”, 2) that “there be no divisions among you” and 3) that “you be made complete in the same mind and the same judgment.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) YOU ALL MUST AGREE: Many of the words found in this passage are political terms; the word for “divisions” in vs. 10, quarrels in vs. 11 and the slogans of vs. 12 (I’m for Paul! I’m for Apollos!) all speak to the issue of party loyalty. Literally, the phrase “that you all agree” reads: “that you all say the same thing” (cf. the NKJV); but the NAS decided to translate it “that you all agree” because “saying the same thing” was a political euphemism for speaking about two or more parties setting aside individual differences to cooperate toward shared ends. This socio-rhetorical background for the language employed in verses 10-17 should dispel the notion that Paul is calling for a Borg-like doctrinal similitude among the Corinthian congregation. Far from “repeating the same doctrinal formulation”, “saying the same thing” involves, “taking the same side.” This shouldn’t be construed as mere compromise – it
